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Old 04-18-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Timberwoof View Post
You don't actually care about my answer. You've stated many times that you just want to brutalize or kill certain classes of criminals; you're a monster. I don't have to discuss anything with you.

Okay, all right, you're about to fire off some insulting flame about what you think this "obviously" means about my beliefs in this matter, so I'll tell you: It depends.

First off, the adult is to blame[1]. People should know better than to brutalize children, and they should, instead of doing that, suppress their desires or urges or seek help.

Second, whatever's wrong with society that it damages people to do this is also to blame. Now based on the amount of binary thinking I've seen here lately, I can understand how the concept of shared blame might be new to some. This is the idea that blame for some event need not fall exclusively on one person ... more than one person might be responsible for the same evil.

I once read a book about mass murders and serial murderers. Each chapter was about a different one. The book detailed the crime, the murderer's background, and the results. It struck me that the sections on the criminals' backgrounds all read pretty much the same: they were emotionally and physically abused by their parents or others and shared certain psychological traits, usually sociopathy. It seemed pretty clear to me that people should stop beating their kids ... and stop bullying weaker kids. The attitude, "Oh, waaah. You got beaten up by your parents and you got bullied when you were a kid. Suck it up, be a man, check yourself in to a mental hospial," isn't going to solve the problem. Brutalizing and murdering them isn't going to solve it either.

Have I provided the politically correct answer?

[1] Fer chrissakes! What answer did you think I was going to come up with? No, I don't want to know. You've already described, several times, in graphic detail, what brutal treatment you recommend for some people, and, as though it would turn opinion into fact, repeated your opinion, several times.
The answer to my question is simple. The adult. Period. And I do care about your answer because it says a lot about you that you'd blame society, and not the monster. See the next para for explanation.

And again, in your paragraph that starts with SECOND you again blame society for creating these monster, thus absolving the monster from his action because society creates it.

Society creates nothing. People CHOOSE to act and do things and more often then not, as indicated by Gopher's statistics you like, they CHOOSE to victimize children. Quit being an apologist and see these inhuman monsters for what they are and give them what they justly deserve.
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