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Originally Posted by thorvonclemson
My turn,
First off, thanks for all your insights. I followed wrestling for years during the 90's and into the last few years. The WCW/NWO days were probably my favorite.
I would like to ask you a few quesitons. First off, can you elaborate on the Bret Hart situation a little more; specifically how he got "screwed". I followed the story briefly, however I was always curious as to what really happened.
Second, who in your opinion was the physically strongest wrestler ever? I've heard stories about Andre and the Big Show performing huge off-stage feats of strength.. can you comment on this?
How does it feel to be essentially wrestling people, in front of a crowd, in your underwear... I am sure it is something that the pro's come to terms with rather quickly, but have you ever had any reservations about it or did you have to come to terms with it? I mean this with all due respect to the people that do it... I just have always been curious about this topic.
finally, of all the submission moves, which ones are really capable of inflicting pain and which ones looks worse than they actually are? I follow MMA a lot and see some similarities in submissions between mma and wrestling. Is the figure four really that painful?
Thanks in advance.
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First, Bret Hart's screw job. What happened, First, while Bret was the Champ, McMahon told him he wouldn't renew his contract that was expiring the night of Survivor Series (at midnight) and asked Bret to loose the belt to HBK. Bret and HBK are like Claude Lemieux and Chirs Draper. So Bret refused to loose to Michaels especially in Canada. Don't forget, a year or two before HBK had refused to loose to Bret, so he just forfeit the title saying he has "lost his smile". Bret has a long memory so it was his time to get back at HBK. But weeks before that night in Montreal, Bret signed a multi-million dollar contract with WCW, but he had to finish his duty with WWE before WCW can start using his name.
So, Vince had to find a way to make Bret loose before that Sunday Night at Midnight but Bret refused to loose to Shamrock in Detroit the week before, then didn't want to loose to HBK. Bret's idea was to loose in Ottawa the next day on RAW but what McMahon did'nt liked is that WCW Nitro was starting 1h before RAW and WCW was already set on going on strong with the big news. Big news being Bret joining WCW. McMahon didn't want his competition to announce that they've signed WWF's champion, so he decided to do what we now call the Montreal Screw Job. Vince sworn to Bret he wouldn't do it, but did it.
Second, I don't know who's the strongest, but I can tell you that I've heard about the Road Warriors being able to bend olympic bench press bars.
The most feared wrestler was Haku (Meng or King Tonga). Everybody feared him because he was, in real life, able to kill somebody in 2 seconds. He was strong, agile and quick plus expert in many martial arts. Every locker fights I've heard of, all end with: "Then Haku came in and it stopped". I've talked about it with many veterans and they all told me it was true. Ken Shamrock was also feared, you don't try to too stiff wih him in the ring.
3rd, we're not wearing underwears, it's the wrestling attire. Do you think Olympic swimmers and divers are afraid to go out around the pool wearing a swimming suit? It's the same thing.
Finally, all submission moves are taken from real moves that can hurt. Try them for real and see by yourself!! LOL No don't try it, it hurts for real. What I like about MMA's popularity, is that it's giving more credibility to submissions in pro-wrestling. Now, people are buying armbars as legit moves since people are taping out to them in MMA even if it's not spectacular.