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Originally Posted by phizix
your definition of agnostic is off. Here it is for reference:
a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
Now lets address faith. Here are the definition:
1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>
Part 2b directly relates to the subject at hand, no?
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yes faith relates to religion. Not to aethiests. You can not call it faith by not believing in something that has no proof it exists. Faith is only used for believeing in an unproven. You are construeing the definition of faith to use for your religious arguement. The religious play for the word faith is not to be used for aethiests. DO they have faith? Sure.....but everyone does. I have faith I am n ot going to die tonight but I can not prove that.......
I like to think of aethiests as more realists.
My bad about the agnostic definition.......but then again I was not too far off and did not need to run to a dictionary.
Point is religion will never be proven, You have faith in something you will never know about.
I personaly am an aethiest. I think religion is a shame by those that need that extra somethign in their lives. Nothing wrong with hat but not for me.