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Originally Posted by cdnredraider
What is your scientific data to prove that God does not exist. You claim there is some because its a matter of fact. There must be cold hard proof that there is NO god if you are to be an athiest(very wrong  ) without there being any faith.
At least an agnostic (still wrong  ) acknowledges that there isn't hard evidence either way and therefore it can no be proved that god does exist or that god does not exist.
So things like string theory and when Einstien deduced the theory of relativity were all based upon observable evidence? Some would claim that the appearance of everything we see today out of nothing (Big Bang??) would be evidence that something created it.
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The problem with believers is that they feel they are justified in saying that we have to prove that there is a god. The facts are that if you are going to make the assertion that there is a god,
you have to provide evidence to back up your supposition, which you cannot. The fact that there is no evidence to even come up with a hypothesis which includes god, precludes the idea of god from even entering any type of scientific discussion or a discussion based upon reality itself.
It is apparent that you do not understand the basis upon which Einstein built the theory or relativity. He did not pull it out of his posterior as many believe, but instead built upon things like the laws of inertia, electricity, optics and mechanics that were built upon observable phenomena. He did in fact use laws that were defined by the observable universe in order to come up with his theories of relativity and special relativity.
As for String Theory, it is in fact still a mathematical theory rather than a scientific theory because it is not based upon or corroborated through experiment and observation. People love to point to string theory as though it proves that theories are just a hypothesis in science, but they fail to understand the difference between a scientific theory and a mathematical theory. But that requires an understanding of the scientific method and the scientific definitions of hypotheses and theories rather than layman usage of those terms. Before you attempt to argue things about science and its theories (facts), you must be cognizant of what they mean and how they come about and the subtle line between those theories derived through science versus mathematics.