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the black one had "koho" down the side.
there is the half maple leaf at the back sides of the black mask and the chin cup said Van Velden type 3 on it.
No maple leaf on the white one, but the chin cup said Van Velden type-2.
both chin cups were the same except for the labeling,
so this leads me to believe the white is a VV2 and the black is a VV3?
Last edited by Danny99 : 05-17-2008 at 03:11 PM.
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