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Originally Posted by CubanPuckstoppr
I know Wellsie, and respect his opinion, and am grateful for his contributions here, but I wish to present two counterpoints
dealing with different crease paint
problem losing my angle's on glove side ALLSTARTHREAD
And in support of Wellsie I present this, (anybody that works with SieveD on a regular basis needs support.
See the
Science of Hockey: Making Saves: page 3
once at the link scroll down to the Knowing where you are on the ice section (there’s a real video clip to go along too)
Personally I prefer most reference based on the net out, but will not complain if a goalie in on top of the crease, or recovering form a scramble, or "just lost" and uses a landmark as a reference, but IMHO this needs to be the exception. |
Cuban, thanks for the links - I had not read that angle debate prior to tonight- quite the powder keg!
Let me clear one factual error from the other thread - Ian Clarke DOES advocate the use of forward reference points for angle development. It was in his From The Crease series and is still posted on his website drill book (I just checked a few minutes ago).
I have no problem with an initial tapping off as the play develops (assuming you have an inside-out original stance). However, once you are outside the radius that allows you to 're-tap' the posts clearly some other source of mapping must come into play.
Most of us old dogs who have played the game for many years gain an intrinsic understanding of where we are on the ice, based on years of experience. We know that a 1 inch mini shuffle equates to X inches of net coverage because we have made saves in that exact spot on that exact angle on countless occasions. Regardless of whether or not we are consciously aware of it, I believe that at some level we are picking up on physical cues on the ice or around the arena.
My suggestion is not to rely too heavily on physical markings once the play is in the defensive zone. Forward reference points are a great way to establish initial major angles and even some minor angle adjustments. They can also help you reorient after a scamble play has left you disoriented. Importantly, these markings must be tested and understood during warmups or practice sessions.
I do not believe that the tapping off method is the only way to teach angles nor do I believe it is a good method. It has some viability for inexperienced goalies since it acts as physical crutch and comfort source. Since you cannot keep moving back to tap off every time the puck changes position it seems illogical that the posts are the sole source of reference. Logically other reference markers or the experience of the goaltender must come into effect.
Where I believe both methods converge is the need of the high performance goaltender to transcend the use of any markers or posts to gauge their position. Good goalies simply know where they are and where they need to be.
I don't always agree with everything every NHL goalie coach teaches and this is clearly one area that I have personally tested and suceeded with so I am sticking to my guns.
Wellsie