yeah i get what you mean. its just that i cant butterfly slide in my visions. the inner side is like frayed and sorta rough so it actually grips the ice rather than slides. ive tried to lean it but its just impossible with these pads and actually hinder my learning of the more modern techniques.
sorry if my constant questioning is annoying

are the pads flexible? if i were to go down on the face of the pads, would the knee rolls come around and flex to still cover my knees?