I hate my Itech 4.8 pants, they made them so bulky . And The boot channel for my Itech 7.8's is so shallow my skate rotates to the side in the butterfly and never end up back in the boot channel so the pads aren't in the right positions; no matter how tight the toe ties are or the bottom straps are. In a scramble with messed up pad positioning I can't get up cause there so out of position I had to roll on my stomach and what not. Itech makes me unhappy...these are my opinions though.