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Old 07-13-2004, 07:13 AM
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Chocolate Milk

I'd like to use this thread to list the specific information, drills and concepts we learned at the BB Clinic. I'd like to make this thread clean. No cross talk or debates about the topics at hand, just a listing. It would be a great refresher for those who attended and a decent source for those who did not.

Later, I'll organize a formatted version and delete this thread.
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Chocolate Milk: the trainer who spoke to us early said chocolate milk is excellent for recovery. It has carbs, protien, is easily absorbed and gentle on the system.

I have gone out and purchased a couple of packs of Parmalat chocolate milk. It doesn't need refrigeration and can be stored in your bag. Before you leave for the ice, just stick it in a pile of snow and it will be nice and cold when you return.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:04 AM
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I will be posting technical tid-bits I heard as they come to mind.

Stance:
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- Keep stance relatively narrow. A wide stance makes it difficult to move in your crease.

- Put a little weight on your stick. A soft stick will let pucks bounce over it through the five. (thanks Sloth)

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- To prevent the shooter from manoeuvring the puck very close to you, keep your stick a little forward in your stance.

- Forget the 1st, 2nd, xth move put forth by the shooter. The last move is the one that counts.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:16 AM
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Gloves out in front of you, further out than you are use to or seems natural.

Benefits:

Full view of your gloves will allow you to follow puck into equipment more easily.

Compact, shorter moves to catch/block puck.

Gloves in front cut down angle, (similar to telescoping out concept )

Less turning of head to follow puck into glove.

Hands are closer to puck to cover rebounds.

Hands lead torso when turning towards puck, instead of following a turn into puck.
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Old 07-13-2004, 08:32 AM
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Follow the puck into your body. I know everyone who played little league has heard this since they were eight years old. You would be surprised at how few of us do it. I didn't realize I wasn't doing it until I had Yona standing over me.

I, and I think a lot of other people, watch the puck until it's about 2 feet from us. Then we move things in front of the puck and assume it will hit us. Meanwhile we watch the shooter, the guy waiting for the rebound, the defenseman, the hot girl in the stands, etc. That's why we have poor rebound control and in my case, a weak glove hand.
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Old 07-13-2004, 10:02 AM
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My big learning experience is get up on the correct leg. I have become used to getting up from the B/F on mt left leg for so long, that I only get up on my left leg no matter which way I am moving. Something I will definetley work on.

I also learned the orde in which to move when following a shot. You first track with your eyes, then you move both hands towds the puck and shooter, then use far leg to get up and drive the body toward the new shooter.


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Old 07-13-2004, 10:26 AM
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Great stuff guys, keep it coming. I know I have a tough time following the puck to my body. That is one of my hardest habits to break, some nights I can follow it but most nights I cant. Other than really focusing on it is there anything I can do to help this?

This shall be my new mantra!

Forget the 1st, 2nd, xth move put forth by the shooter. The last move is the one that counts.
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Old 07-13-2004, 10:29 AM
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Here are my footnotes from the weekend:
[list=1][*]Professional trainers DO NOT recommend supplements to athletes unless there is a known dietary deficiency[*]Active hands works. You must get your hands out, forward, of your body and present them to the puck.[*]By getting your hands away from your body, it makes the torso pivot easier with less chance of hanging up in your gear.[/list=1]
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:13 AM
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Re: Chocolate Milk

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Originally posted by Old Swiss2
Chocolate Milk: the trainer who spoke to us early said chocolate milk is excellent for recovery. It has carbs, protien, is easily absorbed and gentle on the system.

I have gone out and purchased a couple of packs of Parmalat chocolate milk. It doesn't need refrigeration and can be stored in your bag. Before you leave for the ice, just stick it in a pile of snow and it will be nice and cold when you return.
One of the docs I skate with in the mornings is in sports medicine. He recommended skim milk after hockey. Since there is more water in it than regular milk, it will help to rehydrate better and gets vitamins into your system after a workout without alot of the fat.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:18 AM
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Part of the reason, for chocolate milk, was not just hydration , but for replenishing glycogen stores in your muscles. Right after your workout, in particular because within the first 30 minutes after your workout is primetime for glycogen loading for your muscle stores.

After that, expect the usual method of storage and disposal of carbs, proteins and fats.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:29 PM
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Quote:
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Here are my footnotes from the weekend:
[list=1][*]Professional trainers DO NOT recommend supplements to athletes unless there is a known dietary deficiency[*]Active hands works. You must get your hands out, forward, of your body and present them to the puck.[*]By getting your hands away from your body, it makes the torso pivot easier with less chance of hanging up in your gear.[/list=1]

You forgot to add to be aggressive and move toward the puck. This isn't new but most/some goalie coaches preach sitting there and letting the puck hit you.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:30 PM
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One other thing learned:

Professional athletes and their rigorous training schedules, if they become dehydrated at any point will lose 25% of their effeciency and performance FOR THE SEASON because of the dehydration.

Moral of the story.... Lots of fluids.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:42 PM
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Discussion thread

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Old 07-13-2004, 12:50 PM
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edited to add, sorry for not following Swiss' rule, should I start another thread to ask for clarification?
Let's post what we can remember while it is fresh, I'll repost clean and then we can debate.

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-Tracking the puck after the save when down in the butterfly. Head leads. Then hands and pivot. Push off the outside leg.

-Tips for watching the puck. 1) Get a bungee ball or a regular ball and toss it off the wall and follow it into your hand. 2) In warm ups, while stretching by the sideboards. Follow the puck of a player. Watch him stickhandle. Watch him shoot. Watch it go into the net. Watch it hit the twine. Watch in fall to the bottom of the net. Watch it pick up snow. Repeat.
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Old 07-13-2004, 01:04 PM
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Recovery
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- Try to plant your ouside stake towards the direction you're going.

- Even if you're late on a recovery, you can still make a save since your whole upper body has turned and faces the puck and the leading pad is ready to cover the low net.

- Keeping your arms in front during the recovery will prevent you from getting tangled in your gear.

Actice hands
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- From stance to a bfly your arms stay pratically in the same position. Only the body drops.


Following the puck .... can someone post Yona's drill during games to get you focused on the puck ?
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thanks guys, sounds like you all learned a thing or two.
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