Muscles, strength and other common health stuff....

[mont]

QUOTE This is off topic but i was interested to hear what every1 thinks is the best abdominal workout for a goaltender. I know that all the core movements such as olympic lifts are huge for goaltenders. I want to know more specifically which ab exercises to do to improve as a goaltender. Balance, stability, power, and explosion. What is the best to improve these?


If you ask me, its holding weights (dumbells or just plates) above the stomach while lying on the back - then doing situps from that position.

MONTSTER GOALIE ACADEMY
(scroll to the bottom)

You develop both speed and intense core strength and it mirrors the kind of move you make in goalie recoveries - allowing you to perform them with ease (like this)
YouTube - VIDEOKLIP 3 MGA MÅLMANDSTRÆNING SLO MO

[TacoBell61]

Originally Posted by Fade2Black

-Muscle insertion locations (i.e. Dennis James' sky high lats)
-Muscle belly lengths (i.e. Kevin Levrone's triceps)
-Bone Structure/Joint Size (Smaller joints make muscles look larger, Lee Priest is a prime example)
-Clavicle Length (Longer clavical = higher ability to carry mass [i.e. Markus Ruhl, Paul Dillet])
-Natural waist size (i.e. Brian Buchanan)
-Ability to gain lean mass while keeping bodyfat gains to a minimum (Typically a somatotype feature, also diet)
-Ability to keep lean mass while dieting down
-Tendon Strength
-Vascularity (i.e. Rich Gaspari)
-Skin Thickness
-How well you respond to chemicals
-Ability to get dry (flush out subcutaneous water)
-Symmetry and Proportions
-Concentration of Androgen Receptors

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Thanks for all the info!

How is Skin Thickness a factor?

[Fade2Black]

Originally Posted by TacoBell61

Thanks for all the info!

How is Skin Thickness a factor?

Guys with thinner skin will be able to show off more definition (cross striations, etc...) while posing. It also ties into the point about vascularity, the thinner your skin the more vascular you will appear.

[FRAM]

Well I must say thank you for the plenty of excellent info in this thread. I've seen this thread over the past year but I missed out on the beginning and I always put off sitting down and reading it all to catch up as my Mind was not into it.

Well I'm glad I took the 2.5 hours today to read this masterpiece. It has provided me with excellent info. Thank you.

[ThePM]

Is playing hockey enough to keep one in shape and perhaps become a little fitter?

Basically, I play about 3-4 hours a week of ice (stick and puck) where I'm constantly either being pounded on with shot after shot or stretching in the off moments. I also go for a run/jog for 2KM every other night or so before bed to help me fall asleep.

Do I really need anything more than that?

[FRAM]

Originally Posted by mont

Well Oddz how much am I blushing?

Thank for the VERY kind words my good friend, but how does that saying go..."I'm not worthy."

Try this for breakfast:
Tastes great, makes you full, and is healthy as hell in all the right places.

1 cup oatmeal
1 tablespoon honey
1 scoop natural peanut butter
1 cup eggwhites
1 cup lowfat milk (I'm big on skim but ok with lowfat)
1 teaspoon wheat bran

or
1 cup oatmeal
1 tabelspoon honey
1 scoop raisins
1 cup eggwhites
sprinkle of cinnammon
1 cup lowfat milk
1 teaspoon wheat bran

Stir to boil in a pan - it becomes a kind of "custard" in consistency and texture which is very palatable.

On days where I will have a lot of activity (ie. training days) I increase the honey 3 fold, might add bananans and apples as well.
"Off" days have just the basix as shown above.

There you have it - my "secret breakfast" recipe

I eat this almost every morning and have been doing so for a "long" time. It covers nearly the entire spectrum of what you need - and more towards achieving your better "quality of life" physical goals.

Mont is this in place of your morning shake or in addition to the morning MOAS?

[VaughnGP]

anyone know if the body fat scales in GNC or other like stores are worth the money?

[Jim Bob]

Originally Posted by vaughn33

anyone know if the body fat scales in GNC or other like stores are worth the money?

The better way to go is to get some quality calipers and instructions on how to use them.

[mont]

Originally Posted by FRAM

Mont is this in place of your morning shake or in addition to the morning MOAS?

FRAM,
This is an alternative to the shake I wrote about earlier. Enjoy!

[Old Swiss2]

Nutrition Education Failing

Please note what it said about tastes being defined by the time you are ten.

[mont]

Hi Swisser!
Thanks for the article.
What was interesting to me was the admittance of so many programs that fail. No surprise there. Even more interesting was this part:

"If the mother is eating Cheetos and white bread, the fetus will be born with those taste buds. If the mother is eating carrots and oatmeal the child will be born with those taste buds," said Dr. Robert Trevino of the Social and Health Research Center in San Antonio.

Most kids learn what tastes good and what tastes nasty by their 10th birthdays.

"If we don't reach a child before they get to puberty, it's going to be very tough, very difficult, to change their eating behavior," said Trevino.

However, I cannot agree with this as accurate believe it or nuts.

My kids had parents eating just that "carrots and oatmeal" yet NEITHER or my own kids has any interest in either - quite the contrary. In fact - even my own kids eat as much bad food as any of the so-called "born into poverty" kids. And both mom and dad DO NOT emulate this whatsoever. Yet, even these two boys prefer junk over anything particularly healthy.

Eating properly takes knowledge (that is believed in and cared about), plus a level of discipline. When one is young, they dont have the previous and I can see the impossibility of the latter (discipline), when the kids are surrounded by fast food, candy, chips, fancy advertising, sodas etc. etc. on a daily basis.

Without THAT problem being solved, I doubt ANYTHING is going to work - as attested to by my very own kids.

[Doc Holliday]

Obviously poor parenting on your part Beat them into submission, that'll do the trick. j/k

[FRAM]

Originally Posted by mont

Eating properly takes knowledge (that is believed in and cared about), plus a level of discipline. When one is young, they dont have the previous and I can see the impossibility of the latter (discipline), when the kids are surrounded by fast food, candy, chips, fancy advertising, sodas etc. etc. on a daily basis.

Without THAT problem being solved, I doubt ANYTHING is going to work - as attested to by my very own kids.

I think this is why we see a rise by those apposed to to the marketing blitz of the mega corporations and the damage it does to kids. There are active campaigns in local public schools to ban vending machines and to offer healthy alternatives at the school cafeteria.

It's easy to sit back and say get control of your kids but the levels of conditioning and programming in their daily lives is extremely hard to counteract.

I see this in multi-culture families in my area too. The parents (not born here) still cook and prepare food every day but the kids want nothing to do with it.

They want gutbombs from McDicks and such over real food. It's a shame as many parents today aren't able to or don't offer home cooked meals to their kids but yet these families in particular are doing this and the food is being refused.

The marketing is working. We will all be brain dead soon enough if we keep eating this crap they label as food. At least it tastes good going down....

[Old Swiss2]

Originally Posted by FRAM

They want gutbombs from McDicks and such over real food. It's a shame as many parents today aren't able to or don't offer home cooked meals to their kids but yet these families in particular are doing this and the food is being refused.

My son is 11 and loves fast food. But it's a treat, not a diet. Maybe once every two-three weeks or so. Just a burger or burrito and a pop.

But his palette has been formed by us, so he is both an adventourous and experimental eater. Raw oysters on the half-shell? He'll fight you for the last one. Would rather have a ceasar salad than a steak. The corn and tomatoes are exceptional this year, so we had a bunch of ears of corn, fresh toms with fresh basil, olive oil on some water mozerrella and it was watching locusts attack. We make pizza every Sunday. Fresh dough from scratch--whole wheat. Usually some kind of interesting combination of fresh topings. (Probably a tandoori pizza this weekend.) He understands that fresh tastes better and good food doesn't come out of a greasy sack.

And I understand kids get tired of what their parents make, but then it's your job to change it up and make it fun. We read labels with him. If he wants to help, he cooks with me. (I made a linguine with little necks this week that we wept over it was that good.)

He just got back from cooking camp and is a better baker than I will ever be. It's important that you teach kids healthy food is fun, not just good for you. You know, parenting.

[leaferguy]

Having grown up on many different and unusual (for around here) home-cooked foods, I can say that there's something to be said about portions, as well

My mom is very old school in her eating habits, thus good food = lots of food. When I was fat, I understood I needed to eat less, but I didn't know how much less or why because most of my meals didn't have nutrition info. As I got older, I became able to discern what was good about home cooking and what was "bad."