butterfly?

[scottyboy39]

Is it me or are the younger goalies taught now when they are in their stance to keep their glove hand straight up.When I was growing up we were taught to keep your glove and blocker at the same height to have balance.My guess is if your glove is higher then your blocker the weight will be on you blocker foot.And also the puck comes from the ice up,so its faster for a goalie to move his glove up and catch the puck.I noticed this last at a open skate where there were three younger goalies who all had their glove pointed as if they were being sworn in with their left hand.With some good skaters they were getting lit up just over the pad and under the glove and watching them get mad I then noticed this.Im only 29 and yet they call me the fossil seeing how I play the hybrid/stand up style.Kinda of like richter,brodeur and hextall.


Keep on robbing them shooters fellow minders.Rock on

[Steven]

Is this what you are talking about? (Picture is from another thread/GSBB member)

[Sprawl]

basically active hands. it's playing the angles of the puck and the trajectories. the glove is up, ready and going to accept the pucks comming into it a lot easier and faster than if you have to lift it at the time of the shot.

[efstratios1]

Originally Posted by Sprawl

basically active hands. it's playing the angles of the puck and the trajectories. the glove is up, ready and going to accept the pucks comming into it a lot easier and faster than if you have to lift it at the time of the shot.

Now if you only ever practiced what you repeat

[Sprawl]

to quote a great man


do as I say, not as I do...

[scottyboy39]

yea mon that be it.Alot of guys will have diffrent opinions on this topic.But diffrent times.We were told gloves out in front of you same level so your sqaure.Im not saying theres anything wrong about the style just that its weird how much the position has changed.Back in the day growing up in the states you were taught stand up gloves level and out waiting for the puck.In Montreal butterfly.Now its all butterfly.Wonder what the new style will be 10 years from now.

[scottyboy39]

Originally Posted by efstratios1

Now if you only ever practiced what you repeat

hahahahhaaha

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by Sprawl

basically active hands. it's playing the angles of the puck and the trajectories. the glove is up, ready and going to accept the pucks comming into it a lot easier and faster than if you have to lift it at the time of the shot.

It is faulty logic when you look at the statistics of where shots go and where goals are scored.

80+% of shots are in the low half of the net.

Over 65% of the goals are scored low, i.e. low blocker, 5 hole, low glove.

Therefore to put your hands in the position indicated by the picture above is going to help inflate those numbers on you.

A median, forward position is the best place.

[kohomcm]

This might be wrong, but this is where I hold my glove

[Sprawl]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

It is faulty logic when you look at the statistics of where shots go and where goals are scored.

80+% of shots are in the low half of the net.

Over 65% of the goals are scored low, i.e. low blocker, 5 hole, low glove.

Therefore to put your hands in the position indicated by the picture above is going to help inflate those numbers on you.

A median, forward position is the best place.

I thought his arm was forward in that picture....

angles hard to tell

Koho, you generally want to open up the face of the glove to the shooter. creates a bigger blocking surface and means your glove is open and ready for the shot

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by Sprawl

I thought his arm was forward in that picture....

angles hard to tell

Koho, you generally want to open up the face of the glove to the shooter. creates a bigger blocking surface and means your glove is open and ready for the shot

Forward, maybe...but it is immaterial as it is in a position where pucks rarely come.

[jacksonh]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

Forward, maybe...but it is immaterial as it is in a position where pucks rarely come.

Well, you need to factor in the fact that he probably drops to his knees for 80+% of shots. (anything in the bottom half the net)

I was always taught to hold my glove low, and am now in the process of breaking the habit and using the "new" high position. It still feels awkward, but is a much more efficient position if you are butterflying a lot. Though, you do have to switch to a lower hand position when you are going for more of a block.

[marty'sgirl74]

I had noticed this awhile ago and couldn't understand why I was seeing so many young or new tenders adopting this stance. After asking around, this is reason that I was given. On a hard shot, with your elbow bent the glove can not snap back as far in reaction to the pucks momentum. Your arm just won't move that way. Less chance of the pucks momentum carrying over the goal line.

While this does make sense in some ways, I don't know that this is a smart trade off. I've tried it in beer league, but didn't notice any significant benefits outside of what I already mentioned. I would have to say I prefer my traditional glove positioning. I've found that I can follow a puck moving my arm in a upward motion more quickly than if I have to drop it for a lower shot. That's what works best for me.

[Redness]

Originally Posted by kohomcm

This might be wrong, but this is where I hold my glove

I like the way your glove is holding the top of your thigh rise in.

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by jacksonh

Well, you need to factor in the fact that he probably drops to his knees for 80+% of shots. (anything in the bottom half the net)

I was always taught to hold my glove low, and am now in the process of breaking the habit and using the "new" high position. It still feels awkward, but is a much more efficient position if you are butterflying a lot. Though, you do have to switch to a lower hand position when you are going for more of a block.

It is not a more efficient position. Anyone who tells you so is a snake oil trader.