Butterfly slide In 1 Week and under $25 Bucks

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This is how I learn how to butterfly side very basically in one week and under $25 dollars in two steps, that anyone can do. Keep in mind I just started and I am no pro but I can do a basic side and am working on good technique (glove up, stick and blocker in right possession, not hunched over and so on).


Step 1: I made myself a slide board like this one But only for $25 bucks. What you need to do is go get yourself a 4'x8' sheet of 3/8" masonry board and a 8' 2x4 from your local hardware store . The sheet of 4x8 masonry board is going to be you slide surface it is a very smooth peace of wood like material very good for sliding on, almost like sliding on 2nd or 3rd period ice. And the 2x4 you will cut in half to two 4' lengths. Then drill the 2 peaces of 4' 2x4 to each end of the masonry board ( I only went about 7' apart not the full 8' sheet of wood). Thats it you have a good slide board. I used mine for about a week and had 3 goalie try it and now we are going to make 2 more for my fellow goalie buds.

Step 2: Get your skates sharpened to at least 1/2 inch you will find that it will make your leg burn due to the sharpness of the skate but I found you will be able to get the grip you need to push off when you slide. Also it will help with your leg strength and speed and quickness.

Here is the depths you can go for sharpening. ( I went 1/2 and I could slide like the wind when I hit the ice Weeee )

3/8 is sharper.

it goes like this

1/4 3/8 1/2 5/8 3/4 7/8 1"


If you do these 2 step you will be able to butterfly slide also you will work the mussels need to improve you slide. other than that I just did the same routine as link here


I hope to have some pic's up today of the slide board.

[Ben N]

Wow! Anna Kocis - SSSSSMOKIN'


Oh yeah, BTW cool sliding board, nice work!

[scooter]

I am excited to see some pictures of you board. I was thinking of trying something similar in my apt, but with crazy carpets and no skates.

[spidergoalie]

While I am a fan of slideboards, and have 2 of them myself, (not G1's though) one thing I think is important is that you get slide with a sideways movement on them as much as a forward movement. This of course is not the same as on skates (unless you have really dull skates)
I"m not talking about when you push off, I"m talking about the lead leg.

For example on the site you linked, look at the drill "T-push challenge, return to post".
Notice the goalie on the slideboard is not turning his foot and thus is not doing T-pushes. What he is practicing, he could not do the same way on ice.

Also, I can push while down like no bodies buisiness on a slide board. It is easy! on ice.....to the glove side....not so much

So slideboards are a great training tool and much more accessable than icetime for most of us, but one does have to think about how the move would actually translate to skates on ice.

[jacksonh]

Originally Posted by spidergoalie

Also, I can push while down like no bodies buisiness on a slide board. It is easy! on ice.....to the glove side....not so much

Hey Spider, I have a little trouble moving to the glove side also. What is it that you feel gives you trouble moving that direction?

[spidergoalie]

I think there may be a couple issues for me.
One thing is I am heavily dominant on my right leg (I'm a full right goalie).
I have balance issues, and so I walk with a slight limp favouring my right leg.
More goalie specific, I used to be a heavy paddle down goalie, so I developed the bad habit of always getting up with my right leg. My legs are definately not symetrical.
I think that with some quality ice time to work on the down pushes I could even it out. A slide board would help with technique once the slide is underway, but like the T-push, the actual push itself is a little different than it is on skates.

That said I think it is really common for goalies to be better able to push stick side than glove side. Similarly most goalies if not pressured, get up with the glove side leg. I wonder if the fact our hands are wearing different loves, facing different directions, and one is holding a stick means that our bodies are not very symetrical and maybe this affects weight distribution?
I"m really only guessing here.

[streethockeygoalie]

Questions: Why would your legs burn at 1/2in? Unless you have poor leg strength, 1/2in is not that sharp.

The b/fly slide is not learned in a week. Are you claiming so? Nothing beats on ice practice. Work on it before and after games/pickup.

Spider, with focus and a little practice it's not too difficult to get the push down pretty well with both legs. I think it's more mental, then anything.

[kohokevin]

any pics?

[ryan95]

I have the same issue where left to right my slide is respectable after 1 season of ice from roller. but right to left is like bambi on ice,,,,not that bad but you understand. if been working hard, have the overdrives nad feel like only a small amount of progress is being made.ive watched the videos and am sure its a practice thing. i was gonna start a new link and as if anyone was having the same issue and if there were any quick helpful hints. but i has worried someone was gonna call me a hippo or a dingo or whatever it is. instead of just posting where it could be found and leave it at that.

[streethockeygoalie]

IMHO, if you need the OD's to BFslide then your technique is awful. Take the OD's off and work on the slide without them.

[spidergoalie]

Originally Posted by streethockeygoalie

Spider, with focus and a little practice it's not too difficult to get the push down pretty well with both legs. I think it's more mental, then anything.

I agree with the first part, but honestly I think more than a mental block, I need ice time, not games or shinny mind you. Just me on the ice in my gear. That is the first step. The second challenge is to get the move automatic in game situations, but I have to be able to do it well first. I can do it just fine to the stick side, but still I don't do it very often, tending to shuffle across on my knees more. This I think is because I play on hardwood more than I do on ice, and so you develope certain habits and muscle memory things in the situations you most often are in.

Actualy I took a different approach to the problem....not one I"m nessesarily recommending, but it might be worth thinking about for some.
My deficits as a goalie are I am slow in recovering, and not great getting across while down...and I play a BF oriented game.
I used to deal with this by playing Potvin deep and relying on reflexes and a fairly acrobatic style, but this gets harder to do as you age, and to be honest is a recipe for inconsistancy IMHO.
I struggled trying to improve recovery time (I ain't getting any younger or faster either ) and pushes, but then it occured to me that maybe my first priority should be controling the rebound so I don't have to make fast recoveries or slide across in the first place. Also being patient and not BFing too early. (people who think the BF block does not include reading the play and the shot couldn't be more wrong)
I made this a concious choice.
For the last couple seasons I really worked on a BF block game with rebound control as a huge priority, both in terms of absorbing shots in my core, and directing shots from my perimeters.
This also lets me have more confidence in challenging because I am less likely to need to scramble.
Now I am not saying fast recoveries and good down mobility are not worth working on. Of course they are. I am only saying that I think they are a little bit about fixing a mistake on the initial shot,(of course there are non mistake reasons to have to recover fast and push across too, such as deflections before the shot arrives) and I decided to focus on not making the initial mistake first.

And this has what to do with slide boards for pushing while down practice you ask? nothing at all
just thought I'd share.

[relm4x4]

This might be a stupid question but is masonry board the same as concrete board??
Are you guys using pad covers when using the homemade slide board or is it smooth enough that it won't hurt your pads? Also, will it dull your skates or are you wrapping them in something? Just a couple questions, eh!

[fish taco]

I don't think people usually use skates on slide boards.

[Jaberwky]

Originally Posted by relm4x4

This might be a stupid question but is masonry board the same as concrete board??
Are you guys using pad covers when using the homemade slide board or is it smooth enough that it won't hurt your pads? Also, will it dull your skates or are you wrapping them in something? Just a couple questions, eh!

I have seen in other threads about homemade slideboards that old practice jersies work pretty well. You must not have graphics on them that woud grip the slideboard surface, and you'd have to get some straps sewn on to fit to your pads. The jersies also work well for shoe covers for "skating" excersizes.

[Cujo_64]

Originally Posted by streethockeygoalie

IMHO, if you need the OD's to BFslide then your technique is awful. Take the OD's off and work on the slide without them.

agreed !!

why cheat ? regardless of what age you are, just go without them, how many years have goalies been without them and been fine ?
rob

ps what happens when the wood starts to splinter and then cuts up your pads ?

just asking...