cant leave crease?

[ScJeff]

Hey i was playing highschool tier II hockey today and got constantly lectured by the ref.

What would happen- The play was in the other end for a long period of time. WHen there was a whistle id skate around. I got told by him" You are not allowed to leave your crease unless you have my permission!" and threatened to give me a penalty.

Later on i had to change water bottles. I passed it to a player and skated to the circle to get the new one from him. And the ref came again and said "IF YOU EFFEN GO OUT OF YOUR CREASE ONE MORE TIME ILL GIVE YOU A PENALTY!".

I've never heard of that rule before. halfway through the second period we were shorthanded i tried to ice the puck and my stick(Vapour XX) snapped. I dropped in on the ice(I know im allowed to play with it till the next whistle) and when the play ended skated to the bench to grab my backup. I got assessed a penalty for "leaving the crease". I know that there is a penalty for that but i thought it was only during fights.

Is the ref on crack and should i write a complaint or is that a rule?

[PuckStoppa30]

Report that,.did he allow you to skate to the bench on delayed penalties?

[Steve L]

As long as you don't cross center ice (unless hedin g to the bench on a delayed penalty) or freeze the puck outside your priviledged zone, you can skate whereever you want. Just remember that the ref doesn't have to wait for you to get back to the net before dropping the puck if he thinks you are intemtionally wasting time.

However, if the ref blows the whistle specifically due to an "altercation" then you have to stay in your crease unless instructed to move away by the ref or linesman. Cross center ice then and you could get 30 days!

[Spidey]

my understanding of the goalie in the crease rule was when there was a altercation or fight, that then the goalie couldn't leave the crease unless given permission.

And even then if the fight was in your crease you can leave without permission...

Under Goal keepers penalties in the USA Hockey rule book

(d) A minor penalty shall be imposed on a goalkeeper who leaves
the immediate vicinity of his crease during an altercation.


from rule 613 fighting

(f) When an altercation occurs on the ice, at the signal of the
Referee, all players (nonparticipant), excluding goalkeepers,
must proceed immediately and directly to their respective
players’ bench. Goalkeepers must remain in the immediate
vicinity of their goal crease. See Rule 407(d) (Goalkeeper’s
Penalties). A minor penalty shall be assessed to any player,
excluding goalkeepers, who fails to move to the players’
bench when so instructed by the Referee.


Those were the only goalie leaving the crease refrences in the book
http://edit.usahockey.com/servlets/F...20Rulebook.pdf

[junior1cats]

Your not allowed to leave the crease. In USA anyway. Ask him if you need a new stick or whatever. Can't skate out if one of your team mates is hurt on ice either. I would have told league official he currsed at you, he's not supposed to do that. Next game ask your coach or the ref the rule.

[JON]

During a stoppage in play, i always skate to the boards and back to get a little wind if I'm too hot and to keep my legs moving. I never even got a warning for that let alone a penalty. I think I read on this board somewhere that an NHL goalie (forgot which one) used to do that too.

For the record, if there is an altercation in or around my crease and it gets close to me, I skate away from it so I dont get hurt, especially if I'm down freezing the puck and they get too close for comfort. I dont need guys falling on top of me for nonsense at the risk of getting injured. If they wanna call me for that, then so be it. I befriended a lot of the refs in my league though, so they always give me some leniency. We shoot the **** during stoppages.

[blackmamba]

You can leave your crease. No problem except rules now state where you are able to handle the puck. Not allowed to leave during a fight also.

Just think about it. Take Y theory as an example . On a break where the Heck do you think you would be ? Most likely 2 or 3 strides above the top of the Shore ( crease ).

Many Goalies will skate to the corners instead of a drink of water during a break in the action . You can skate to the bench if you want but there are rules as to where you can play the puck. These rules on playing the puck are much more restricted in the NHL because they are trying to bring more offence into the game.

[L7spider]

Ref is on crack. How can he tell you what to do when there is a stoppage of play on the other end? Especially if you're not disrupting the game in any way. Even if you were doing this while the puck is in you're end, he doesn't have to wait for you, he could just drop the puck and let you skate around and leave the goal wide open. Sounds like this guy was on a power trip or something. I would definately report this to a higher up, this guy is making up his own rules.

[ncpuck08]

In USA Hockey a goaltender can not leave the crease for the purpose of going to the bench (reasons such as equipment adjustments, water bottles, stick replacement) or during an altercation. This would force the goalie who does this to remain at the bench until the following whistle, or to take a minor for delay of game. In this particular instance talk to the head official of the reffing association theyll gladly talk to him.

[junior1cats]

Originally Posted by ncpuck08

In USA Hockey a goaltender can not leave the crease for the purpose of going to the bench (reasons such as equipment adjustments, water bottles, stick replacement) or during an altercation. This would force the goalie who does this to remain at the bench until the following whistle, or to take a minor for delay of game. In this particular instance talk to the head official of the reffing association theyll gladly talk to him.

Thank you.

[Law Goalie]

That's the rule in the US; no such rule in Canada, just FYI, for those who are confused.

If you want the ref to hold play until you get a replacement stick, water, etc., just take your helmet off. He can't drop the puck until it's on, and he can't issue a delay of game penalty for it (as far as I know). Just pretend there's something wrong with it until your team can sort you out.

[junior1cats]

Originally Posted by Law Goalie

That's the rule in the US; no such rule in Canada, just FYI, for those who are confused.

If you want the ref to hold play until you get a replacement stick, water, etc., just take your helmet off. He can't drop the puck until it's on, and he can't issue a delay of game penalty for it (as far as I know). Just pretend there's something wrong with it until your team can sort you out.

Yes Law, that what I posted up top, in US. Not sure of Canadian rules.

Take helmet off ? Isn't that cheating then ?

[Law Goalie]

Ah, sorry mate - I missed your qualifcation up there.

Taking off the helmet works for Roli.

[Beccaraptor]

I would report him just for using the bad language! That's very unprofessional and they always emphasized in ref school not to let your emotions get out of control. There is no rule that I am aware of that you can't skate around the ice during a stoppage of play. The IHL goalies here do it all the time. Not sure about the stick, in USA hockey it's not legal for a goalie to go back to the bench for a stick, but in Canada it might be ok.
Try that helmet trick next time!

[pck30]

That's crazy. If I couldn't leave my crease during a stoppage in play I'd never stay warm in games when the play is mostly in the oppositions end. Sounds like the ref was on a power trip.