
10-23-2007, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Essex Junction Vermont, USA
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Video of myself
Here are a few short clips of me from this summer when I was playing pick up hockey with some local guys. I know I hold my glove too high I'm working on that and I stand too wide. Let me know what you think. There is another video on my youtube from last season in jr. b
YouTube - Pick up 1
YouTube - Pick up 2
YouTube - Pick up 3
YouTube - Mens League Action
YouTube - Mens
Last edited by jdog111000 : 10-23-2007 at 07:20 PM.
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10-23-2007, 07:32 PM
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got beer?
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicagoland area (Huntley, IL)
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You summed it up, glove is too high and too wide of a stance. Your very quick and in good position... very nice. The only other thing I would say that may hurt you is your stick is always off center but you make up for it with a tight closed five hole and your butterfly speed. Very Nice work!!!
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10-23-2007, 07:37 PM
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drop top porsche it out.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pittsburgh, PA. USA
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nothing wrong with your stance or glove possition.
maybe the gloves are a bit to far back id hold them out a little more but as long as you can move and arnet getting beat low glvoe theres nothing wrong.
looks good and i like your pads.
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10-23-2007, 08:03 PM
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FS Smith SP2 33+1!
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Nothing wrong with your glove positioning in regards to height. Everyone has their own feel for it -- unless it's costing you goals you should've had, stick with it.
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10-23-2007, 08:18 PM
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wake up n smell the pads
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: atlanta
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you are very quick, nice bf/bf slide. I don't have one at all, wish I did.
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10-23-2007, 09:30 PM
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click here 2 see me dance
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Philly
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Nothing wrong with your technique in those videos. Have any of you actually getting scored on? That would probably show us more about what needs improvement.
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10-24-2007, 08:17 AM
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No skills , nice gear
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario
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Wow dude, youre quick, nice lateral movement. I dont see anything REALLY wrong with your glove position aside from it maybe being a touch high and the only thing wrong with that is having the glove up that high will in turn open up the space under your arm a little more. Im not one to talk though because my glove is always too low hehe
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10-24-2007, 09:01 AM
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Goalie is King
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY USA
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Looking really good there!!!
I still dont understand how someone can critique someone elses stance (unless they are completely out of whack and/or a newb). Not everyone is going to have the same stance and individual goalies will use what is comfortable or what works for them.
Lundqvist has an extremely wide stance and who's gonna critique him on whats been working for him. What works for one, may not work for the other. You shouldnt have to give a disclaimer that your glove is too high or that youre too wide...If it works for you, youre golden.
Last edited by JON : 10-24-2007 at 09:04 AM.
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10-24-2007, 09:51 AM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by millzee53
nothing wrong with your stance or glove possition.
maybe the gloves are a bit to far back id hold them out a little more but as long as you can move and arnet getting beat low glvoe theres nothing wrong.
looks good and i like your pads.
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Please...stop giving goaltending advice....please.
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As far as the videos....your best assets are your lateral movement and the way you battle. There is no lethargy in your movement and you move with a purpose.
We've talked about your glove positioning before...just not efficient of a position, but as you said, you're working on it.
Another thing I noticed is that when you move laterally, your stick is clear of your 5 hole, but when you setup for the shot it comes back to cover up the 5 hole. Your stick use is good, but just pay attention to where the stick is when moving. It might get you burnt at some point when people pick up on it.
For everyone who might not be as good as JDOG here, pay attention to how he moves laterally, on his feet. Short, choppy shuffles. Not big, dramatic movements. Also, take not of how low his butt is when moving. He doesn't come up much at all to move. This is ideally how you want to move around in the crease. He's also not over using the butterfly slide to move into position. It is obvious to notice that JDOG is an athlete, in pretty good shape and can skate well.
PS: For those who say that if the glove position works for you it's fine are smoking something and not sharing with the rest of us....his glove position and that of a lot of the pictures and video I've seen of many of you is VERY inefficient. You can utilize your glove better by having a better initial starting position. JDOG obviously knows this and is working on it.
Last edited by sloth2946 : 10-24-2007 at 09:53 AM.
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10-24-2007, 10:02 AM
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I like 2 hear myself talk
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Houston, TX
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You move very well. The big thing, IMO, about the glove, is that it's throwing your shoulder back when moving it/setting it, and it honestly looks like it's influencing your balance. Not saying it is, as I'm not you, but it just makes your movements appear slightly less fluid/balanced.
I like that you fight to make a lane to see the puck on screen shots. It's good to see you're not just butterflying and hoping it hits you.
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10-24-2007, 12:49 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: kettleby/ontario/canada
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The stance isn't too wide at all, i'm a firm believer that a wide stance is not a bad thing(read, not excessively wide, just wide enough) and the glove thing is Ok... i think to way your gloves come in whle you go into the butterfly is fine. I noticed that your glove seems to be facing straight outwards, one thing i have found that has started to help me out a bit has been to tilt my glove towards the ice a little. Just something to think about. Other than that your game seems pretty decent.
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10-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Essex Junction Vermont, USA
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Sloth,
maybe you could point me in a direction as to were to hold the glove. I started holding it high because my glove hand isn't that quick. I went to a few years of school in quebec and they taught all blocking blocking blocking and not a lot of reacting but anyways, I was holding my glove very low and was getting beat cheese so I thought by moving it up it may help but hasn't that much. I have been watching a few d. 3 goalies as that is were I'd like to play either next year or the year after to see what is working for them and I'm seeing goalies holding it mid hip so thats what I've decided to start trying.
Thanks for the comment guys. I might throw a few more up tonight if I have a chance to rip them off the dvds I have.
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10-24-2007, 02:16 PM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Jdog: I personally like hip height, or at the waist. But you might find something more comfortable.
With that said, I think you issues with the glove hand might be due to three reasons.
1. As someone stated before, move it forward so you can see it in your periphery. It makes it easier to track the puck to it.
2. Moving it a bit forward will reduce visible net, but it will also unhinge that elbow from your body. As is, the arm will not move easily forward, backward, up or down easily because you've assumed a position where the glove hand is locked in place. If you watch your videos you are able to move it down for a butterfly but by and large it doesn't move at all! Where as by comparison, your blocker elbow is away from your body and is very mobile, as noted above where I stated that your stick moves out of the 5 hole and back again very actively.
3. Your blocking roots. Block block block teaches and immobile glove locked to the side of the body filling space and down low covering the 'percentages'. It doesn't really allow for you to react to anything. By doing the above two points this will free up your arm.
Also, play some baseball type games with tennis balls, actually I recommend racquetballs as they are smaller and travel faster. Get used to that arm being free to move and useful outside of your systemized approach that you've been taught all this time.
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10-24-2007, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LaSalle/Ontario/Canada
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JDOG:
Looking good. Keep doing what your doing movement wise. Know your weaknesses though... it helps. Understand your smaller & need to be "out". Understand your bread & butter is your legs & lateral speed & skating.
To help with your stick coming across try practicing your butterfly slide holding a large physio-ball. Holds your hands in position better. I mix up the sizes for active-hands & passive hands work on more advanced goalies like you who need tweaks.
As far as your glove goes, I practice off ice in conjunction with bench press sets. Set on bench + set of 25 ball off wall in a particular glove position + repeat.
Here are my positions (I practice ALL of them) = (1) North American Quebec + (2) Finnish Flip + (3) North American Standard (CT crease position) + etc.
I find to break glove habits I keep my pre-stance setup position (high like yours) but when a shot comes I change to a standard position. I find when the puck is in the corner or behind the net I also **** & prep the glove to the right position too b/c of quick one timers & a premium of making appropriate hand position i.e. passive hands.
Hope this helps some.
I'd continue to go hard on your movement & skating. Pros work unbelievably hard on these skills & they are NEVER "good enough". Your likely getting to a point where its more maintenence & its harder to get to the "next" level of movement... its easy to slip & harder to get better.
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10-24-2007, 03:13 PM
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Registered User
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Essex Junction Vermont, USA
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Thanks again Sloth and thank you JF.
Now can anyone find me a junior team to play for? 
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