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[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by VisionQuest

If you're an adult just playing hockey and working out to stay in regular shape, you probably don't need much more than what I'm taking, unless you are anemic or something.

Thanks for simplifying my point to make it more palatable to people.

Just wanted to make mention of the Omega 3/6 thing.

I for one cannot take them due to a food allergy I have, but I wish I could take them. As someone who has had heart conditions in his family, I want to do as much preventative maintenance as possible and the studies of the effectiveness of the omega lipids in a diet and how it helps to stave off heart disease(why do they call it disease when 9/10 it is self induced destruction!?) is pretty impressive.

Due to the American diet, this is one supplement that should be on every one's list unless you regularly eat good seafood.

[Steve L]

My son and I both take two shot glasses of Mona Vie a day. All natural, tons of anti-oxidents and glucosamine. I've noticed improved sleep and less pain in my joints (those who know my history know that is a big issue with me). Plus, I make money being a distributor for it!

[jsgoal1]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

Occasional protein shake...and a multivitamin a day.

Does anyone else not think it is weird that you guys are all putting the vast range of chemicals in your body from unnatural sources? Do you really think that long term....this is good for you?

Im not sure I know exactly what you are referring to when saying chemicals.
protein, creatine, NO, bcaa's, glutamine are all amino acids. If you've eaten red meat you've had creatine.

Are you sure that multivitamin you are taking daily comes from natural sources or is it synthetic.

I dont see any problem with taking the right supplements as they all serve some function that can be beneficial.

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by jsgoal1

Im not sure I know exactly what you are referring to when saying chemicals.
protein, creatine, NO, bcaa's, glutamine are all amino acids. If you've eaten red meat you've had creatine.

Are you sure that multivitamin you are taking daily comes from natural sources or is it synthetic.

I dont see any problem with taking the right supplements as they all serve some function that can be beneficial.

The proteins, lipids, amino acids and other chemicals obtained through the consumption of red meat is a natural creation process. The way mother nature intended our bodies to obtain them and process them.

The crap you get in the bottles and pills are created through a synthetic, chemistry process in a lab.

Which do you think your body is supposed to use?

For a long time people have talked about the idea that 'its just a compound, your body wont know the difference of where it comes from.' Given the incident rates of cancers and other health issues...I'm not so sure that is true.

And you're right on the multivitamin...but it is just one extra thing that I am hoping I get a little bit from to cover what might be slightly deficient in my diet. As far as the aminos, lipids and other elements....I get them from natural sources with the exception of the rare protein shake I get.

The point I am making is that you're advocating the pumping of hundreds of dollars of chemicals a month as a 'supplement' to something your body simply doesn't need extra of, and do you not think that there wont be some sort of equal and opposite reaction(not just on your bank account) in your body at some point if you and others continue to do this?

It is naive to think that there wont be at some point.

[canaman34]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

Occasional protein shake...and a multivitamin a day.

Does anyone else not think it is weird that you guys are all putting the vast range of chemicals in your body from unnatural sources? Do you really think that long term....this is good for you?

I don't know about you guys....but I am able to perform at high levels for long periods of time, through out the course of a day without anything other than the multivitamin and a decent diet. Case in point...yesterday, I was up at 6am. Did the P90X yoga dvd. Went to work, at lunch did the P90X shoulders/bi/tri DVD, one hour of goaltending instruction, and back to back games of around a 30 save effort in each, without having dinner and still was able to only give up 5 goals total for the night and went 1-0-1 and I feel fine this morning because I properly hydrated and ate a banana when I got home......Oh and I am about to head downstairs to the gym to do P90X Legs/Back.

Honestly guys...we're just beer leaguers and schleps. With the exception of Chakal who wrestles and needs to have that physique, does anyone here really need this stuff??? Think about it and how much money you're wasting on something that odds are you mostly just pee out within a few hours.

X2... Most of this stuff people are talking about is a joke. Just stick to the basic stuff.

[Densetsu]

Like others have said, a multivitamin a day and a decent diet is the best supplement, by far. I'll also throw in an extra B-complex vitamin if I feel I need a little lift. Both of these are just simple, drugstore vitamins. I don't see the big difference between a single Centrum multivitamin and a pack of a half-dozen horsepills from GNC... "vitapacks" or something like that. Well, besides paying $10 for six months vs. $50 for 30 days.

And the names they use are ridiculous... "Ultra Super Mega Men's Omni Performance, Sport, and Vitality Multi Vitamin Pack". People who think Starbucks has weird coffee names haven't been in a suppliments store...

I've used protein shakes in the past, and it's great if you're weight training. But the vast majority of the year I'm strictly doing cardio training, so I just stick to a balanced diet. I don't think having 20" guns is going to help me snag that puck any faster.

Also, since all flavours of protein powder taste like puke, I stick with unflavoured. I'd rather toss a bunch of fruit, milk, and unflavoured powder in a blender, than subject my taste buds to some weird artificial chocolate chemical.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

Does anyone else not think it is weird that you guys are all putting the vast range of chemicals in your body from unnatural sources? Do you really think that long term....this is good for you?

I can't speak for what other people are taking, but in my case the majority of the stuff I take daily is specifically because they have been shown to be very good for my general health, even if I wasn't playing any sports at all.

[jsgoal1]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

The proteins, lipids, amino acids and other chemicals obtained through the consumption of red meat is a natural creation process. The way mother nature intended our bodies to obtain them and process them.

The crap you get in the bottles and pills are created through a synthetic, chemistry process in a lab.

Which do you think your body is supposed to use?

For a long time people have talked about the idea that 'its just a compound, your body wont know the difference of where it comes from.' Given the incident rates of cancers and other health issues...I'm not so sure that is true.

And you're right on the multivitamin...but it is just one extra thing that I am hoping I get a little bit from to cover what might be slightly deficient in my diet. As far as the aminos, lipids and other elements....I get them from natural sources with the exception of the rare protein shake I get.

The point I am making is that you're advocating the pumping of hundreds of dollars of chemicals a month as a 'supplement' to something your body simply doesn't need extra of, and do you not think that there wont be some sort of equal and opposite reaction(not just on your bank account) in your body at some point if you and others continue to do this?

It is naive to think that there wont be at some point.

I agree with you on some points, I consider myself pretty health conscious. I feel that it is most important to get your nutrients through food sources. Are these synthetic made supplements hurting us I dont know. I know that creatine has been studied for 6-8 years at a time, while not long term, it is still a good amount of time, without any adverse side effects. It has been used since the 80's with enough controversy but has been shown safe.

If you are going to be avoiding these supplements because they are created and not in their natural form then you need to be checking your refridgerator and pantry. Many if not all of the vitamins and minerals that are "fortified" are synthetic created. Ascorbic acid (vitamin C) is almost ALWAYS lab created, check how many labels have these ingredients.

Again, long term, will they be hurting us, i dont have the answer but they have been being used for a decent amount of time without known health problems.

To be honest, I would blame cancers and other health issues on ones DIET and lifestyle choices. I would point more towards the preservatives, chemcials and pesticides in our food sources, the leeching of chemicals from plastic containers that our food and water are stored in.

I think your intentions on pointing this out was in the right place but there really isnt enough information on the long term health effects they may have.

BTW, I was interested in finding a multivitamin from natural sources and have found some that use ingredients such as carrot powder and blueberry powder to get your vitamins, which I find very promising.

[NedofRock]

1 multivitamin with pretty much everything in it.

1 flaxseed/all the omega's tablet.

Nothing else as of yet, still getting started with this healthy regime to be honest and i keep regressing into a pizza. Been doing ok last 2 days though, hope i can keep it up.

Other than the eating healthy i just try and do excercise everyday. 10mins on the rower in the morning and then a bike ride in the afternoon/evening. Lots of uphills, im trying to get explosive movement in my legs.

Im also a stone overweight and have a bit of a lower back problem so, leaving the free weights for now and concetrating on the cardio.

Any tips anyone can throw my way, that are not already in that thread Monster played a big part of, would be appreciated

[NedofRock]

Originally Posted by Steve L

My son and I both take two shot glasses of Mona Vie a day. All natural, tons of anti-oxidents and glucosamine. I've noticed improved sleep and less pain in my joints (those who know my history know that is a big issue with me). Plus, I make money being a distributor for it!

I tried asking this earlier but the forums shut for some data back up..anyway, i had no idea what Mona Vie was so i Googled it and got a load of worrying links to sites expressing concern about it being a scam?

I see you are a distributor for it so, you may be biased but, could you shed some light on this please?

[Steve L]

Originally Posted by NedofRock

I tried asking this earlier but the forums shut for some data back up..anyway, i had no idea what Mona Vie was so i Googled it and got a load of worrying links to sites expressing concern about it being a scam?

I see you are a distributor for it so, you may be biased but, could you shed some light on this please?

Not a scam, just a good poduct sold through typical multi-level marketing. Remember, that is how Tupperware was sold for year too. Just a different way of distribution.

It is a pure fruit juice mix on nineteen fruits, all picked because each one has he highest level of something you need.

Standard Mon Vie includes: açai, white grape, nashi pear, acerola, aronia, purple grape, cranberry, passion fruit, apricot, prune, kiwi, blueberry, wolfberry, pomegranate, lychee, camu camu, fruit purees (pear, banana, bilberry), citric acid, natural flavor, sodium benzoate.


MonaVie Active also contains: D-Glucosamine Hydrochloride,
Potassium, Polysorbate-60, Esterified Fatty Acids.

Send me an email and I'll fill you in on the details.

[cwarnar]

I am still following the routine I used while living up North as recommended by my Dr and Nutritionist:

Daily Multivitamin (Currently finishing Kirkland, switching to GNC Mega Men Sport Multivitamin)

SISU Alpha Lipoic Acid Plus - 3x daily
(SISU Products)

SISU Essential EFA - 5 times/day
(SISU Products)

Chewable Vitamin C (1 each morning, orange flavored)

Vitamin D (1 pill with breakfast)

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard - Chocolate (2 shakes daily after workouts)

The main reason I took these was due to the lack of fresh fruits and veggies. I am getting better at eating them now that we are back in the South, but have stayed on my plan.