P90X redux

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by aeborunda38

Or you could just do the week again?

I think I read somewhere you could extend one of the phases if you needed to. But, I think it said not to go over 6 weeks.

I believe that redoing the week is insufficient. In my opinion losing two days is the equivalent to losing a week. I lost essentially a week, so I should have to do the 3 weeks over to get back to where I was.

Not worried about the not going over 6 weeks because Phase 3 is different each week.

[aeborunda38]

Just finished Kenpo X and Plyos. So week two is officially over now.

Will be weighing in tomorrow...

[itech35]

I've been doing P90X for a few weeks now, and I can already feel the difference as compared to when I first started doing the workouts. If you give 110% with every workout you'll without a doubt get good results. I don't think it's really a goalie specific workout, which is why I do only the videos which I think are most suited to hockey- Plyos, Ab Ripper, Core Syn, Yoga etc.

[JohnnyOne]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

I believe that redoing the week is insufficient. In my opinion losing two days is the equivalent to losing a week. I lost essentially a week, so I should have to do the 3 weeks over to get back to where I was.

Not worried about the not going over 6 weeks because Phase 3 is different each week.

Your right but the great thing about P90X is it does not have to be an all or nothing program. To get the maximum results within the 90 day promise, you need to be strict and do the program as laid out.

But if you can't, you can always finish what you can and do it again. When you go through alot of the before and after pictures people post up on their bulletin board you start to see that alot of the really ripped, really fit people are second and third rounders.

I am currently trying (hoping) to finish without changes to the program or diet. I think I have a good window for that for the next 12 weeks.And then I am going to hit it again. Round 3 will be with P90X Plus.

[Ryeno42]

My p90x diet also gets messed up when I play hockey.

The boys make me drink beer and eat all the food (buffalo wings, pizza, - all bar food) they order.

5 out of 7 days is not bad.

[efstratios1]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

My p90x diet also gets messed up when I play hockey.

The boys make me drink beer and eat all the food (buffalo wings, pizza, - all bar food) they order.

5 out of 7 days is not bad.

The nutrition is the hardest part for me as well. That and I get mocked by friends and co-workers when I eat healthy. "Ohh watching your girlish figure?" etc etc. So annoying!

[aeborunda38]

I went on the beach body BBs and realized that while you should get results in the first round, you have to do a couple of rounds (maybe not have to, depending on how you were before starting the program I guess) to get really "ripped".

But, I'm in mid-week three. And can't wait for my rest week on Monday

BUT, I haven't been able to complete Ab Ripper X. At all, I skipped it once (this Monday, completely forgot about it). And Tuesday I couldn't finish Plyos, I stopped with about 20 minutes left (I had finished it the other times though). So I'm getting worried that if I can't finish AbX all the time, I won't get the results most people who can finish it do get.

I don't know if you all will understand me, I had to work out early today and I'm exhausted. haha

I don't know if I should be worried about this, but lately, I've been thinking too much.

-Andy

[JohnnyOne]

One of the resounding tips in this program and in most of the other programs I have done that involve some or all bodyweight exercise is the importance of not skipping or missing a workout; do as much as you can rather than skip completely.

Granted we all have busy lives and sometime you just can't do it. But more importantly if you do have the time but you are tired, than do the workout but take breaks and don't push as hard i.e. do less reps or don't use weights if that is an option. It is better to do something than nothing.

I find that doing Ab Ripper the day after Yoga is tough because of the Yoga Seven ab work.

This seems to contradict Tony's advice about not doing ab ripper everyday; if you do your ab ripper routine on the day before Yoga and the day after, plus the Yoga Seven you have then worked abs 3 days in a row.

My abs are usually beat by the time I get to Ab Ripper on the day after Yoga so I will either take breaks (like Tony says) or cut back on the reps abit.

I would not worry if you miss a day; it will all be reflected in your results at the end but realistically you can redo as many times as you want and for most people who have the goal of being ripped, that is what it will probably take.

Either way it works out for you, provided you don't skip too many work outs, you are still going to be in way better shape than when you started.

[sloth2946]

Never miss a day. Double up if you have to. On in the AM another in the PM. Never miss though.

Or simply reorganize the workouts so you can get them all in during the week. I know there is a method to the madness of the structure of the whole deal, but if you shift plyos to Weds or Friday or whatever....and shift that day's workout around too...what does it really matter? You got through the whole program for the week, if anything it will provide more disruption to your program and chaos to your muscles which is good.

That said...restarting Phase 3 has been hard. I've lacked drive and energy. 3 games in 3 nights...and being out to 3 partying after our championship hurt too...Plyos didn't go well at all...got about 20 mins into and had to bag it because of my game 2.5hrs later.

No worries though. Gonna get amped up and get back into it big time this week and next.

[aeborunda38]

JohnnyOne, I've only skipped AbX once, which was this Monday, but I've never been able to do all the moves. The ones I have trouble with are Pulse ups (I think thats what it's called) and Leg Climbers. All the other ones I do though.

I did miss Plyos and Kenpo last week, but I did both on Sunday, which is probably why I was too tired to finish Plyos on Tuesday.

Sloth, good luck redoing Phase 3. I'm not going to be able to do p90x for a week since I'll be at a "live-in" camp, and they don't allow any electronic devices. But the on-ice and off-ice workouts are pretty intense, so maybe it wont be too bad.

I'm just glad I don't have to do Chest & Back, Plyos, and Shoulders & Arms again.

...for a while anyway...

-Andy

[aeborunda38]

Also, I've noticed that after doing Shoulders & Arms and Kenpo (Especially on chair dips though) I get a pain in my elbows and wrists.

Anyone else experiencing that?

[Ryeno42]

You should do the ABX before the workout instead of after that way you engaged the abs throughout the workout.

The Yoga Belly is the same muscle group , but your holding it not doing reps. You could do abx the day before and after.

ABX is harder if you stop the every other day routine then if you do it once a week.

Does the phipfer scissors kill your lower back? I put my hands on my lower back for support.

[JohnnyOne]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

You should do the ABX before the workout instead of after that way you engaged the abs throughout the workout.

The Yoga Belly is the same muscle group , but your holding it not doing reps. You could do abx the day before and after.

ABX is harder if you stop the every other day routine then if you do it once a week.

Does the phipfer scissors kill your lower back? I put my hands on my lower back for support.

I follow the program as laid out; I think the Abx is to be done after workouts, not that it really matters.

I still think that the Yoga Belly Seven is an ab workout and contrary to Tony's advice to not work abs every day. But if that is what they prescribe than that is how I do it. It does burn me out abit for the last round of Abx for the week.

I don't experience any back pain from any of the ABX moves (other than in the abs)
I just pretty much hate all of them (but I love them )

I don't like the idea of changing things up if you can help it only because it would be difficult to give a fair assessment of the effectiveness of it if you alter it.

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

Does the phipfer scissors kill your lower back? I put my hands on my lower back for support.

Yes!

I found that very controlled movement and supporting my lower back is the only way to get it done.

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

Yes!

I found that very controlled movement and supporting my lower back is the only way to get it done.

Yeah, I get lower back pain as well. I attributed it to latent injuries from my severe back injury last summer and weakness that has been associated with that injury.

What I do is I support the vertical leg slightly with a hand just below the knee. I add light pressure, no more than a few lbs worth if that to the vertical leg and keep the horizontal leg off the ground and the pain goes and I still get the workout.

It's the equivalent to using the chair to squeeze out some pullups.