P90X redux

[Swedish goalie]

Noob help!

What equipment do you need to do this program? What is the toughest program called?

Thanks!

[TartanBill]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

Does the phipfer scissors kill your lower back? I put my hands on my lower back for support.

"Total Body Training" is old, but a highly recommended text for rehap. The authors were well ahead of their time.

Amazon.com: Total Body Training: Richard Dominquez: Books

If injured or rehabbing, they would recommend against a two leg raise because of stress on the lower back.

[Ryeno42]

Originally Posted by Swedish goalie

Noob help!

What equipment do you need to do this program? What is the toughest program called?

Thanks!

IF you GOOGLE "P90x" you will find all your answer and more.

Also Youtube .

There is tons and tons of info on this program.

[JohnnyOne]

Originally Posted by Swedish goalie

Noob help!

What equipment do you need to do this program? What is the toughest program called?

Thanks!

If you are talking about P90X, it is a challenging program. You would need access to dumbells or resistance bands, a pullup bar and some room with high ceiling.

The company that sells this program is BeachBody. They offer various programs of varying degrees of difficulty.

I currently have the P90 Master series (abit easier than P90X), P90X and soon to receive P90X Plus.

I am looking forward to receiving Plus. From some of the previews I have seen it looks like a hell ride of a workout.

[Swedish goalie]

Originally Posted by JohnnyOne

If you are talking about P90X, it is a challenging program. You would need access to dumbells or resistance bands, a pullup bar and some room with high ceiling.

The company that sells this program is BeachBody. They offer various programs of varying degrees of difficulty.

I currently have the P90 Master series (abit easier than P90X), P90X and soon to receive P90X Plus.

I am looking forward to receiving Plus. From some of the previews I have seen it looks like a hell ride of a workout.

Thanks!

Is the toughest program called P90X?

Where did buy your resistance bands from?

[Ryeno42]

YOu could buy everything on their website.

tHERE'S also a supplementary program after p90x called "p90x plus" which consists of a whole bunch of combo moves and sequences.

[Swedish goalie]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

YOu could buy everything on their website.

tHERE'S also a supplementary program after p90x called "p90x plus" which consists of a whole bunch of combo moves and sequences.

Thanks!



ten char

[leaferguy]

Oooh, P90X Plus...

I think I may be getting that. Great way to break in the new apt.

BTW, for anyone struggling through these workouts and not getting plyo or abs done:
Work harder This isn't a miracle DVD, but it's well made and it gives you structure. If you abandon that structure or modify it to make it easier, it loses a lot of its impact, IMO. It's kind of like doing half of your daily work or chores and saying you'll do the rest tomorrow. Why not just do it today?

Seriously, this is only as good as you make it. I'm not a blob of fat, but when I started I wouldn't say I was in great shape. I still wouldn't say I am (%BF too high). Regardless, I had trouble with Ab Ripper, but I never stopped. If I needed to take a break, I swallowed my pride and did. If I wasn't doing a move right, I paused the DVD to take the time I needed to get it done correctly. I feel like as long as I'm working to do it right, I'm not wasting time.

Same thing for plyo. If you're having trouble, budget your time so you do half the disc, take a break midway, and then come back in 5-10 minutes. If you can't do that, just force yourself to get through a little more each time. Say you whittle that 20 minutes down to 15 next week. Then you get it down to 5. You'll eventually acclimate to it, as bad as that may be, and you'll be able to hammer it out even on bad days.

Maybe it's because I'm still a youngin', but I can't see buying into an exercise routine and quitting early on certain days. The results are so much better and so much more rewarding if you can find a way to trick your body into doing those last few minutes.

Also, on a related note, I firmly believe that none of the DVDs should be easy, either (outside of the Kenpo/Yoga/recovery week ones). If you're looking forward to a specific one because it's not as hard, chances are you need to modify it and make it harder. I can legitimately say that I do not look forward to feeling my muscles fail as I do curls, pushups, or pullups, but at the same time, I know that if they don't, I'm not doing it right.

I think Tony Horton said it best in another little YouTube clip I watched. It was about women walking to lose weight. Basically, he said to put yourself on an intensity scale from 1-10, 10 being that someone's chasing you down a dark alley with a knife and 1 being you're getting up from the couch. To burn fat, you need to be at at least 7-8. Obviously, you don't need these kind of analogies or a trainer to tell you this, but it helps to frame it in a very easily understandable way, and the same thing goes for weightlifting. You don't need to fail after the first rep, but you should be having trouble at a point before 12 reps.

I'm having the time of my life seeing the results and feeling the physical gains. I go to bed tired and dreading the next day's workout until I wakeup and don't feel the old, stupid aches and pains. I also don't feel as much extra fat baggage, so it's a win-win, IMO.

[Swedish goalie]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

Oooh, P90X Plus...

I think I may be getting that. Great way to break in the new apt.

Does a nutritioun(s) plan come with P90X Plus?

[aeborunda38]

I don't think you should be looking at P90X Plus before you get P90X.

I might be wrong, but I think you can't even do P90X+ without P90X.

Either way, try P90X first, if you still want harder, I'm pretty sure you can change it for a "harder" program. Such as "One on One with Tony Horton" Which is supposed to be the newest, hardest one.

[Swedish goalie]

Originally Posted by aeborunda38

I don't think you should be looking at P90X Plus before you get P90X.

I might be wrong, but I think you can't even do P90X+ without P90X.

Either way, try P90X first, if you still want harder, I'm pretty sure you can change it for a "harder" program. Such as "One on One with Tony Horton" Which is supposed to be the newest, hardest one.

I think Im going to test P90X first and if that is to easy I will try P90X+.

Im really excited to try this

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

Oooh, P90X Plus...

I think I may be getting that. Great way to break in the new apt.

BTW, for anyone struggling through these workouts and not getting plyo or abs done:
Work harder This isn't a miracle DVD, but it's well made and it gives you structure. If you abandon that structure or modify it to make it easier, it loses a lot of its impact, IMO. It's kind of like doing half of your daily work or chores and saying you'll do the rest tomorrow. Why not just do it today?

Seriously, this is only as good as you make it. I'm not a blob of fat, but when I started I wouldn't say I was in great shape. I still wouldn't say I am (%BF too high). Regardless, I had trouble with Ab Ripper, but I never stopped. If I needed to take a break, I swallowed my pride and did. If I wasn't doing a move right, I paused the DVD to take the time I needed to get it done correctly. I feel like as long as I'm working to do it right, I'm not wasting time.

Same thing for plyo. If you're having trouble, budget your time so you do half the disc, take a break midway, and then come back in 5-10 minutes. If you can't do that, just force yourself to get through a little more each time. Say you whittle that 20 minutes down to 15 next week. Then you get it down to 5. You'll eventually acclimate to it, as bad as that may be, and you'll be able to hammer it out even on bad days.

Maybe it's because I'm still a youngin', but I can't see buying into an exercise routine and quitting early on certain days. The results are so much better and so much more rewarding if you can find a way to trick your body into doing those last few minutes.

Also, on a related note, I firmly believe that none of the DVDs should be easy, either (outside of the Kenpo/Yoga/recovery week ones). If you're looking forward to a specific one because it's not as hard, chances are you need to modify it and make it harder. I can legitimately say that I do not look forward to feeling my muscles fail as I do curls, pushups, or pullups, but at the same time, I know that if they don't, I'm not doing it right.

I think Tony Horton said it best in another little YouTube clip I watched. It was about women walking to lose weight. Basically, he said to put yourself on an intensity scale from 1-10, 10 being that someone's chasing you down a dark alley with a knife and 1 being you're getting up from the couch. To burn fat, you need to be at at least 7-8. Obviously, you don't need these kind of analogies or a trainer to tell you this, but it helps to frame it in a very easily understandable way, and the same thing goes for weightlifting. You don't need to fail after the first rep, but you should be having trouble at a point before 12 reps.

I'm having the time of my life seeing the results and feeling the physical gains. I go to bed tired and dreading the next day's workout until I wakeup and don't feel the old, stupid aches and pains. I also don't feel as much extra fat baggage, so it's a win-win, IMO.

Well said Leafer.

This week, as I reset Phase 3, and I am still having trouble with my motivation, I had to cut Plyos short for the first time. I had some very specific reasons for it, but I will get the whole vid next time through...that you can rest assured of.

That said, I read somewhere on the BeachBody forum about how everyone reaches that point of dreading the next workout and you don't want to do it...that is the demons trying to get you to go back to your old habits and soft body. And yes, that is so true, because that is exactly what it is.

But once you start to see shaping of your body and start to feel good about what you're doing, just looking in the mirror is enough incentive to get back at it.

Originally Posted by Swedish goalie

Does a nutritioun(s) plan come with P90X Plus?

Yes. There is a diet/nutrition program with it. Very comprehensive, but not for me.

[aeborunda38]

He was asking about plus though sloth, not p90x.

Isn't Plus just some extra dvds?

[aeborunda38]

Swedish:

If you love P90X® and you're saying, "Give me more," or, "I need a challenge"—then here it is, the P90X Plus Series. Tony amps up the Muscle Confusion with BRAND-NEW MOVES and never-before-seen workouts all set to hot music created exclusively for P90X Plus by Jason Scheff, lead singer of the band Chicago! The NEW P90X Plus will break through plateaus with intense new cardio, muscle chiseling, and ab/core-ripping moves to ramp up your results. Adding these new advanced workouts into your P90X rotation will literally TAKE YOUR WORKOUT TO THE NEXT LEVEL and create workout combinations beyond your imagination. Trust me, it doesn't get better than this . . .

I think that means you need p90x to do p90x+.

Or am I wrong?

-Andy

[JohnnyOne]

Originally Posted by Swedish goalie

I think Im going to test P90X first and if that is to easy I will try P90X+.

Im really excited to try this

HAHA; that's funny. Unless you are super conditioned, I don't think you are going to find P90X too easy.

You could make it easy by cheating, missing workouts or using bad form but if you stick to the schedule and go for perfect form (and don't wuss out and use bands instead of pullups (relax all you banders; just kidding), you will find P90X challenging enough.

Beachbody definitely recommends that you are a least a one round graduate of P90X before you attempt to incorporate the workouts from Plus. And yes you need the P90X workouts to incorporate Plus.