P90X redux

[Ryeno42]

Here 's the quick phase 1 diet: eat proteins and very low carbs.

I followed half a diet and lost 12 lbs. Thats with beers every sunday and no kenpro or leg routine.

[aeborunda38]

Just curious.

Why no Kenpo/Legs?

[Ryeno42]

kENPRO does nothing for me. Maybe just the kicks, but I do that already.

The Legs/ back workout I don't need to. I run 3 miles 3-4 times a weeks now . No time between hockey and running anyways.

[leaferguy]

Just throwing this out there:

In HS, I ran at least 48 miles a week (9 miles each day after school, min, plus weekend races and other meets during the week) plus roller and ice hockey. I know for a fact that if I did Legs & Back, I would not have been able to perform athletically in any of these for a few days after.

IOW, I wouldn't say it's not needed, just that it's not optimal if you want to do well in hockey. I've taken the summer off from playing to keep up with this thing, and it's been the best way to do it. I can devote myself to training with no worry of overexertion before a game.

Long-distance running does not build strength in the legs like squats, lunges, etc. Also, you ignore the pullups if you don't do the DVD.

[JohnnyOne]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

kENPRO does nothing for me. Maybe just the kicks, but I do that already.

The Legs/ back workout I don't need to. I run 3 miles 3-4 times a weeks now . No time between hockey and running anyways.

It's KENPO; yes it is an easy workout I think meant to finish off the week. On my next round I may alternate weeks with the Sweat 5-6 from the P90 Masters series.

[sloth2946]

Found this fluff piece in my inbox from Beachbody.com

David Akers gets a kick from new regimen
By Matt Gelb
Philadelphia Inquirer Staff Writer

BETHLEHEM, Pa. – [Philadelphia Eagles kicker] David Akers acknowledged he was embarrassed. A perfectionist, he keeps diligent track of his statistics in practice, games, and training camp. That's why his 2-for-10 clip from beyond 40 yards last season made him desperate to change something.
Then one day, while in Dallas during the off-season, Akers saw an infomercial for a new training regimen called P90X.

"I said, you know what, it looks legit because it's not some gimmick," Akers recalled. "It [involves] actually working hard and changing the regimen all the time."

He tried it for the sake of change. He did not intend to lose weight, but he ended up dropping 20 pounds and 6 percent of his body fat.

And his leg feels stronger. He has shown that in camp. Akers, out to prove last season was a fluke, has made two 60-yard field goals, including one yesterday.
"I'd be real happy if I was able to keep this type of power and consistency through the season," Akers said.

Last season, Akers lacked on deep kicks for the first time in his career. For a lifetime 68.1 percent kicker from beyond 40 yards, 2 for 10 was like a slap in the face.

He convinced Eagles trainer Rick Burkholder, who said he lost 30 pounds on the regimen. "And he was standing on a chair doing it at first," Akers said. Burkholder has the injured Eagles doing parts of the training system.

Special-teams coordinator Rory Segrest sees a different Akers, who now weighs 183 pounds. "He's showing really good leg strength right now," Segrest said. "He's hit them in warm-ups. He's hit them during our team reps."

The first day Akers came to camp, he nearly hit a 70-yard field goal. That's when he realized that maybe this P90X regimen could pay off.

"There's something to it," Akers said of his new training technique. "It's not like, 'Hey, take this pill, you're going to lose 40 pounds of fat.' You bust your butt. It's tough."

This is the first active, professional athlete(albeit a kicker!) who has done the program and had results.

[Ryeno42]

Bandit Goalie School also uses it:

Yoga X
http://www.goaliestore.com/board/ban...-pictures.html

and Core Syn X
http://www.goaliestore.com/board/ban...-pictures.html

Most pro athletes aren't going to say it without getting paid or they are already doing it but they don't know it .

Why would a private trainer give up $$$ per hour.

Check out the p90x Plus , it has some great stuff in there.

[The Wall33]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

Bandit Goalie School also uses it:

Yoga X
http://www.goaliestore.com/board/ban...-pictures.html

and Core Syn X
http://www.goaliestore.com/board/ban...-pictures.html

Most pro athletes aren't going to say it without getting paid or they are already doing it but they don't know it .

Why would a private trainer give up $$$ per hour.

Check out the p90x Plus , it has some great stuff in there.

Looks like fairly standard off-ice training to me. It's good stuff, don't get me wrong, but pretty much what most fitness trainers offer...

[sloth2946]

Well I am in week 13 I guess, even though I reset Phase 3 so I figure now is as good a time as any to report back my findings as I've been keeping up on it pretty well through out the 90+ days of the program.

The Hype

The hype behind P90X from the people here who have done the program included, but was not limited to the following:

1. It will get you in the best shape of your life
2. It is a great goalie specific workout
3. It will change your life
4. It is easy to do, i.e. requiring little in terms of equipment
5. It is a kick ass workout

So of those 5 points, I will say that the workout lived up to the hype on 3/5.

The Program

As we've talked about this over the last few months, the program is drop dead simple. Put the DVD in for that day, do the workout, sweat, near puke and move on. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

This statement was completely accurate.

All I did was get a set of bands, and I didn't even get the Beachbody bands, I got Nike bands.

The program is indeed a kick ass workout. It is hard. It is not for the faint of heart and not for the casual exerciser. It is for people who are going to be hard core, and committed...or maybe people that should be committed.

You will get in great shape. You will lose weight. You will lose body fat. You will look better, and you will perform better at any athletic endeavor you choose to pursue, simply because you are in better shape than you started, unless you're a stud from the get go.

My Experience.

For me, and I don't have any pictures and I wont post any because I just don't feel that it is necessary at this point, I have lost in excess of 20lbs. I look great and feel great. I am playing a lot better because my overall fitness level is significantly better than when I started. I still have a ways to go to be where I want to be.

My wife is quite pleased with my transformation and normally when I dedicate this much time and effort to fitness she has no patience for me, but with this program soon after I started to show some results she was all about me continuing and she wants me to rest and do a 2nd round and keep it up.

For me it is important to be fit for a few reasons. 1. I keep a very hard schedule with life, work, hockey, etc. 2. I have piss poor genetics when it comes to overall health. My father is obese and a member of the zipper club at the age of 46. Heart disease runs in the family as well as cancers of various kinds and diabetes.

That said midway through the workout I got a complete workup of all my vitals now that I am going to be 35 this year to set my baseline and according to the doc and the lab, I flew through with flying colors which is good. I am sure some of that was attributed to the hard work I put in during this program.

The program touts that you will be in the best shape of your life. While you might appear to be so I disagree. In college while playing hockey, I was in significantly better shape. I was also younger and started with a better starting point than I did with my first go round of P90X.

I know for a fact though that if I had the time needed to invest in a program, that the program I did going into my SR year of college would have had me in significantly better shape than P90X ever can get me over that 90 day period. Simply because it was much more intense.

However there are several body parts/joints which are in much better shape now than ever, and that is mostly the upper body. My shoulders have never had this much muscle, nor my arms. It was never something that I focused on like P90X targets them, however my legs were in much, much better shape doing my workouts because what I was doing was goalie/hockey centric.

One of the things that I think compromised my results was my schedule during this 90+ day period. I played a lot of hockey. During most of the workout I was playing 3-5 nights a week plus volleyball. Fatigue was an issue at times and compromised my ability to 'Bring It' on many days. Also, there were times I would have to skip Ab Ripper due to time constraints. It is what it is. I don't fault the program at all.

Goalie Specific

I say absolutely not.

If you're going to train for high level hockey, you can use P90X for most of the components, but if you're trying to get in shape to survive and compete during a 25-30 week season, P90X simply will not be enough.

I like the program for us beer leaguers and hacks. It's great. It's comprehensive enough for us to see marked improvement in our game due to the improved conditioning and athleticism.

However for a high level goalie, it is simply not enough.

At the end of this program I could never have duplicated my fitness testing numbers I put up in college. I wouldn't be too terribly far off of them, but I could not say run a 6:00 mile or anything else that we had to do.

If I were to make changes to the program, to just use the videos from the program I could make it much more goalie specific, but it would have to be the equivalent to a psychotic doubles regimen.

This is an example of how I would make it:

AM portion:

Plyo
Core
Plyo
Core
2 Mile Run

PM Phase 1:
Chest/Back/Ab
Cardio
Shoulder/Bi/Tri/Ab
Kenpo
Legs/Back/Ab
Yoga

Basically in my deal, you'd work the legs 3 days of the week, and get core/Ab work daily as these are the most important parts of a goalie's function.

This workout would kill a normal man, but if someone has the huevos to try it, let me know how it works out for them!

Bottom Line

The bottom line is, this program works. I recommend to anyone who is serious about taking care of their body, and cares about how they perform as an adult athlete that this is a program they should take a look at.

What makes it work is the drop dead simple format of the program. You don't think, you don't question...you just do it, and most importantly is BRING IT and you are guaranteed some results. Your results will vary based upon your starting point, and you may need to go through it several times to get to your goals. I know I need to do it again to get to my goal of 175lbs. I am more than half way there.

However, and here's the rub....P90X isn't the only way to get results. The facts are that if you get a well thought out and designed program and have the internal discipline as well as the equipment to get it done you will get the same results.

Just about any program that is well designed will get results, the answer is that you will get out of it what you put into it. But what separates P90X is that you have to put little into it other than sweat and commitment.

All in all I am very satisfied with the product and my results. I just need to put some more effort into it to get to where I want to be. The results speak for themselves. I've been asked by so many people here at work and in day to day life what the hell I am doing to lose all this weight and look as good as I do now and I tell them. I've sold this product to a lot of people...where's my frigging commission!?

Anyway...if you have doubts, just get the DVDs and do it. Dive in, I did. You wont be disappointed other than in how out of shape you really are. But keep plugging along and keep going. You wont be disappointed.

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by sloth2946

However there are several body parts/joints which are in much better shape now than ever, and that is mostly the upper body. My shoulders have never had this much muscle, nor my arms. It was never something that I focused on like P90X targets them, however my legs were in much, much better shape doing my workouts because what I was doing was goalie/hockey centric.

Bingo bango

I never knew how weak my shoulders were until I did this. Kinda sucked, but it's good to fix that.

[The Wall33]

Good work Rob, glad you stuck with it and gave us this feedback, it is valuable for us beer league hacks.

[LukePhillips]

Saw an infomercial for p90x at a bar the other night (yea it was late), and it reminded me about this thread. The ad obviously looked good, and everyone here is giving it great reviews. Sloths post from just earlier helped a ton. I do have a few questions though,

Honestly, I want to do this with my girlfriend who hates the whole 'get in shape' thing. Hates running, hates training, etc. She isn't fat by any stretch of the word, but I would like to see her lose a couple pounds. I'm an arrogant *******, I know this. Don't bother telling me. I think a structured program like this with a partner (me) would be something she would do and really benefit from.

Now, I consider myself in good shape. I play hockey, soccer, softball, run, and lift weights. Would our different levels screw up working together or not? We'd start this in fall back at school. I'll be playing roller for the school, ice in an A league, flag football, soccer, and lifting. Would doing this program at this same time kill me for hockey? I may be in shape, but I know there are weak areas and it sounds like the p90x will find them and murder them.

Would I still need to do my lifting workout while doing this? As sick as it may sound, I enjoy lifting/working out and I don't want to stop. Would it be overkill to keep doing it?

Lastly, what kind of equipment do you need in-home? Being a poor college kid, the program itself will set me back quite a bit and I don't want to spend a ton of change on other stuff.

Thanks for reading this long thing, and thanks for any help!

[leaferguy]

Will answer the best I can...

Originally Posted by LukePhillips

Honestly, I want to do this with my girlfriend who hates the whole 'get in shape' thing. Hates running, hates training, etc. She isn't fat by any stretch of the word, but I would like to see her lose a couple pounds. I'm an arrogant *******, I know this. Don't bother telling me. I think a structured program like this with a partner (me) would be something she would do and really benefit from.

If you have the power to make her work out, I think you would've been able to exercise it already. That all goes beyond what P90X can do for you. If she wants to commit to working out with you, it's a possibility. My gf just doesn't exercise. She's blessed with the Speedy Gonzales of metabolisms and doesn't eat much. I can imagine myself trying to get her to do this and failing miserably.

I'd at least talk to the gf before telling her you're doing it together. I have to coerce myself to do it on a daily basis by reminding myself how good it feels when I finish each day. Like any real weightlifting/exercise routine, a missed day is a missed day and a weak workout is a weak workout. If she's not personally sold on it, having her go from nothing to something that's pretty damn challenging is a good path for failure.

Originally Posted by LukePhillips

Now, I consider myself in good shape. I play hockey, soccer, softball, run, and lift weights. Would our different levels screw up working together or not? We'd start this in fall back at school. I'll be playing roller for the school, ice in an A league, flag football, soccer, and lifting. Would doing this program at this same time kill me for hockey? I may be in shape, but I know there are weak areas and it sounds like the p90x will find them and murder them.

Your different levels shouldn't interfere with the exercise. Just motivate her to reach her targets and have her chew you out until you reach yours for each workout. It may be an issue on plyos or when she needs breaks and you don't, so the exercises may take longer than advertised. If you can deal with that, no worries.

I couldn't play hockey competitively and do this at the same time. I know that if I had done this while playing roller for my school and PIHA, I would've failed even worse than I did. It's mentally tiring.

As it is, I've basically sold out on this program and give everything I have when I do it. You could scale back your exercise level to a 6 out of 10, but you really need to be at around an 8 to get the results you hear people talk about.

Originally Posted by LukePhillips

Would I still need to do my lifting workout while doing this? As sick as it may sound, I enjoy lifting/working out and I don't want to stop. Would it be overkill to keep doing it?

If you have the energy to lift outside of the program, that's your prerogative. I don't see how you'd have the time to do P90X, run, play hockey, have school, all that crap, and add extra weightlifting. Something's going to suffer if you just take a step back and think about it.

Originally Posted by LukePhillips

Lastly, what kind of equipment do you need in-home? Being a poor college kid, the program itself will set me back quite a bit and I don't want to spend a ton of change on other stuff.

It's been covered numerous times in this thread, but you will need at least a set of weights or resistance bands, a pullup bar, a stool or chair, a wall, and a mat if you have hardwood floors. I'd recommend push up bars and yoga blocks.

[LukePhillips]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

Will answer the best I can...

If you have the power to make her work out, I think you would've been able to exercise it already. That all goes beyond what P90X can do for you. If she wants to commit to working out with you, it's a possibility. My gf just doesn't exercise. She's blessed with the Speedy Gonzales of metabolisms and doesn't eat much. I can imagine myself trying to get her to do this and failing miserably.

I'd at least talk to the gf before telling her you're doing it together. I have to coerce myself to do it on a daily basis by reminding myself how good it feels when I finish each day. Like any real weightlifting/exercise routine, a missed day is a missed day and a weak workout is a weak workout. If she's not personally sold on it, having her go from nothing to something that's pretty damn challenging is a good path for failure.


Your different levels shouldn't interfere with the exercise. Just motivate her to reach her targets and have her chew you out until you reach yours for each workout. It may be an issue on plyos or when she needs breaks and you don't, so the exercises may take longer than advertised. If you can deal with that, no worries.

I couldn't play hockey competitively and do this at the same time. I know that if I had done this while playing roller for my school and PIHA, I would've failed even worse than I did. It's mentally tiring.

As it is, I've basically sold out on this program and give everything I have when I do it. You could scale back your exercise level to a 6 out of 10, but you really need to be at around an 8 to get the results you hear people talk about.


If you have the energy to lift outside of the program, that's your prerogative. I don't see how you'd have the time to do P90X, run, play hockey, have school, all that crap, and add extra weightlifting. Something's going to suffer if you just take a step back and think about it.


It's been covered numerous times in this thread, but you will need at least a set of weights or resistance bands, a pullup bar, a stool or chair, a wall, and a mat if you have hardwood floors. I'd recommend push up bars and yoga blocks.

Good stuff man. Not too concerned about her doing it with me, although that is one of my main goals of buying it. When we go to the gym, there is no set plan for her. I go do my stuff I know I need, and she wanders around doing what she feels like doing. It's not her fault, I educated myself because I wanted to and didn't bother to teach her anything. I think a set program we would both follow would work. Anyway, none of that is really the point of the thread so I'll move on.

My big concern about not working out on my own is not keeping my muscles up. Does the p90x give you a complete body workout, or will I be hitting the gym to work muscles it didn't hit that day?

Cutting out hockey obviously isn't happening, but if I feel I'm doing so good on the program, I could cut out other things (like school!) if I had to. I wouldn't be doing this to get ripped out of my mind, just to get a more complete and correct workout. I hate being bored, and this sounds like a great way to keep busy and push myself at the same time.

[VaughnGP]

Originally Posted by LukePhillips

Good stuff man. Not too concerned about her doing it with me, although that is one of my main goals of buying it. When we go to the gym, there is no set plan for her. I go do my stuff I know I need, and she wanders around doing what she feels like doing. It's not her fault, I educated myself because I wanted to and didn't bother to teach her anything. I think a set program we would both follow would work. Anyway, none of that is really the point of the thread so I'll move on.

My big concern about not working out on my own is not keeping my muscles up. Does the p90x give you a complete body workout, or will I be hitting the gym to work muscles it didn't hit that day?

Cutting out hockey obviously isn't happening, but if I feel I'm doing so good on the program, I could cut out other things (like school!) if I had to. I wouldn't be doing this to get ripped out of my mind, just to get a more complete and correct workout. I hate being bored, and this sounds like a great way to keep busy and push myself at the same time.

Im going to get more into this later on as i just started the progame for a second time (first time didnt finish, had things come up) but i am doing with my gf, shes actually doing it on her own, but we are doing it at the same time..

we both also continue with the gym, i do a lot of off the wall type of exercises, and also hit many of the body parts twice, meaning the day after i do the chest and back dvd, i do it again at the gym..plus cardio.. thats not saying its not hard, because it is.. i just think i need more, i want more to be able to do the dvd's better.. i suck at push ups but i can dumbbell press a pretty good amount, add doing it while balancing on a swiss ball and you have a new work out..

i hope you follow what im saying but i do double up on many things.. not that i HAVE to do so, but because i want to do so..