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Old 05-22-2008, 07:00 AM
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Angry tracking puck that's behind the net

Hi,

I tryed to do a search for "behind", "puck behind" and the only result I had was Puck behind the net positioning

Unfortunately, the above thread is not what I am looking for.

I am having problems tracking the puck when it's behind the net. I tryed different techniques but I have yet to find one that fits me well. we lost 4-3 yesterday and that last goal was due to the fact that I lost sight of the puck when my play was behind the net. I have no problems when an opponenet is alone behind the net and tryes a wrap around or a pass to the slot. I have problems when there are more than 2 players behind the net. the goal mesh, the black tape, the sticks, the back and forth....blam I loose sight of it and go into panic mode.

Could someone elaborate on a technique there are comfortable with. Or if someone knows about an existing thread on teh subject ?

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Old 05-22-2008, 08:11 AM
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I decided to add a visual of 2 techniques I use when the puck is behind the net. Critique me and offer some advice if needed.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:13 AM
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too much coffee

Note the many typo's in the image due to the ingurgitation of coffee.

in the image "shuddle" means "shuffle"
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:17 AM
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Maybe not the best method out there but for me, I rely on a quick shuffle and will never have a leg down while the puck is behind the net (too much effort to get up and get depth if the puck ends up in the slot).

I am always right up against one post looking over my shoulder. I try not to move too much. If the puck crosses the center of the net I shuffle over to the other post and watch the puck over my other shoulder.

If there are more people behind the net and it's going back and forth like crazy then so am I, but I'm always focused on the centre of the net and up against one post in order to prevent a wrap around if that might occur after losing track of the puck.
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En tout cas, mardi soir passé, t'avais pas de misère à les arrêter au hockey balle!!!

C'est le grand Pat qui parle, celui qui a goalé la semaine d'avant!
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:57 AM
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ホッケーの網の後ろに戦いがあるとき、私は通常中心に立つ従って私はどちらかのポストにポストを抱き締める かわりにすぐに得てもいい。 役立たずはいかにあなたの箱の腕の保護装置であるか。

私がより堅く、より扱いにくい保護装置に転換したときに、私の肩上のパックを見ることは困難に なった。 それが事実なら多くでそれを壊すことを紐で縛るか、または変えることを試みるかもしれない。
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:36 AM
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You'd probably have better luck searching for 'wraparound'.

Here's a couple threads that pretty well cover the issue from back in the day.

Wrap around playing inline hockey.

Behind the net play- Right or Left shooter?

Paddle down.....

The Dreaded Wrap Around

The wrap around and other technical ?'s

That should give you a good head start into some threads that I know were good at addressing this issue.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:59 AM
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Maybe not the best method out there but for me, I rely on a quick shuffle and will never have a leg down while the puck is behind the net (too much effort to get up and get depth if the puck ends up in the slot).

I am always right up against one post looking over my shoulder. I try not to move too much. If the puck crosses the center of the net I shuffle over to the other post and watch the puck over my other shoulder.

If there are more people behind the net and it's going back and forth like crazy then so am I, but I'm always focused on the centre of the net and up against one post in order to prevent a wrap around if that might occur after losing track of the puck.

>> I guess that you look over your "outside" shoulder correct ? Meaning that you look over the shoulder that's closer to the post ...right ?
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:00 AM
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ホッケーの網の後ろに戦いがあるとき、私は通常中心に立つ従って私はどちらかのポストにポストを抱き締める かわりにすぐに得てもいい。 役立たずはいかにあなたの箱の腕の保護装置であるか。

私がより堅く、より扱いにくい保護装置に転換したときに、私の肩上のパックを見ることは困難に なった。 それが事実なら多くでそれを壊すことを紐で縛るか、または変えることを試みるかもしれない。
>>Sorry buddy i'm not educated enough to read this !!
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:01 AM
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En tout cas, mardi soir passé, t'avais pas de misère à les arrêter au hockey balle!!!

C'est le grand Pat qui parle, celui qui a goalé la semaine d'avant!
Salut Pat, Comment t'as faite pour savoir que c'était moi !!

Thanks pour les compliments....

On se revois bientôt

Take care....
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:06 AM
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You'd probably have better luck searching for 'wraparound'.

Here's a couple threads that pretty well cover the issue from back in the day.

Wrap around playing inline hockey.

Behind the net play- Right or Left shooter?

Paddle down.....

The Dreaded Wrap Around

The wrap around and other technical ?'s

That should give you a good head start into some threads that I know were good at addressing this issue.

Thanks Sloth....Never tought about using that term for a search...why is the word "behind" 'blocked' by the search !?!
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>> I guess that you look over your "outside" shoulder correct ? Meaning that you look over the shoulder that's closer to the post ...right ?
No. I look over the shoulder away from the post.

Which means that quite often, I am on the opposite side of the centre of the net than the puck. But I should be able to see a wrap around coming this way and get over in time to stop it.

It has to be a powerful shuffle, though.

I don't know if this is clearer but in my mind, I can get over to where I can see if I have to and am already over to where I can't see. Meaning that if i lose track of the puck I'm already in position to stop a wrap around.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:25 AM
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No. I look over the shoulder away from the post.

Which means that quite often, I am on the opposite side of the centre of the net than the puck. But I should be able to see a wrap around coming this way and get over in time to stop it.

It has to be a powerful shuffle, though.

I don't know if this is clearer but in my mind, I can get over to where I can see if I have to and am already over to where I can't see. Meaning that if i lose track of the puck I'm already in position to stop a wrap around.

I think I know what you mean...see pic.

BTW, I can power shuffle post to post so this would work for me... I'll give it a try tonight. And for god sakes I have to stop going on my knees when I loose sight of the puck !!! I'll have to make a habit of staying up and trying to find the puck when I lose sight of it...just like when I'm beeing screened !!!
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:31 AM
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I think I know what you mean...see pic.

BTW, I can power shuffle post to post so this would work for me... I'll give it a try tonight. And for god sakes I have to stop going on my knees when I loose sight of the puck !!! I'll have to make a habit of staying up and trying to find the puck when I lose sight of it...just like when I'm beeing screened !!!
Good pic. That's what I do.

Good luck
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ホッケーの網の後ろに戦いがあるとき、私は通常中心に立つ従って私はどちらかのポストにポストを抱き締める かわりにすぐに得てもいい。 役立たずはいかにあなたの箱の腕の保護装置であるか。

私がより堅く、より扱いにくい保護装置に転換したときに、私の肩上のパックを見ることは困難に なった。 それが事実なら多くでそれを壊すことを紐で縛るか、または変えることを試みるかもしれない。
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