beer league puck hog complaint

[Lopaschuk]

I consider myself to have a fairly easy going temperament when I play. I've taken a lot of shots to the head and people don't say sorry, they just kind of smile a dumbass smile like "hee hee, look what I did, aren't I clever?", but after a while I start to get a little pissed, and if some (expletive deleted) pulled that (expletive deleted) with me, he'd get a nice earful from me. Yes we have masks on, but it can still hurt and can still be dangerous. Worst case scenario short of violence, every time he's on the ice, step out of the crease. When his team starts to get scored on on an empty net because he's being an ass, they'll set him straight.

[hammer]

It's pick up and like they said the scouts are not in the stands.

Tell them if it happens again you're out of there. It's hard enough to find goalies for pick up and do you really want to deal with that? I thought it was for enjoyment.

Shooting at your head on pupose can only mean they were trying to hurt you. **** em

[ScJeff]

Adavis- I knew i wouldn't be polite if i talked to him. i would have sworn alot and been disrespectful. Thats why i tried to avoid him.

Blue-zoom- My dad was on the bench when it happened and didn't notice. He jsut got off the ice and was gassed. When he heard he wanted to confront him, i didnt want him to. I just wanted to leave it alone for now. I felt it would be better for me to talk to him, then have my dad yelling at him. And it would be better giving it a week so nothign is said out of anger in the moment.

Slapshot001- I got told his dessing room gave him a few harsh words lol.My issue is if i play the puck, im looking to play the puckMentally when i play the pcuk im looking for the best option. Im not going to leave it wihta man on his ass, when i start doing taht in pick up the bad habbits carry into games for me.

In regards to the i play it all the time. Id say 9/10 i leave it for the defence men if hes wide open. The other 10% if someone is wide open at there blue line i give it a pass. Not the majority of the time but every now and then.

About all this two handers to him. Immediatly after he shot he skated the other way after yelling at me.

Anyhow im probably just not going to help him out anymore. i feel the orginizer is probably going to put us on opposite teams the rest of the time. Most of these people are very friendly, and its fun toplay with them(lowlevel but whatever). One idiot shouldnt make me stop comming for everyone else. If it happens again or the problem persists ill probably talk to the orginizer.

Thanks for the comments. Ive calmed down a bit but still pretty pissedoff.

[RebelGoalie27]

Here's a thought... As the d-man is skating back toward the goalie facing him, a forward breaks wide open at the red line. The goalie sees it and makes the pass. The d-man, facing the wrong way, has no idea the forward is open. The goalie is right to pass it.

[old G]

Originally Posted by diesel

Just leave it next time, its pick up, so who cares...

But from now on, I wouldn't be helping this guy at all. No more "man on, man on" calls, no more stopping the puck for him when its fired in, no more passing to him, etc. He's on his own... just tell him "you want the puck, go get it." He'll touch the puck a lot less if you're not there to help him. And when they score, just say "nice work!". He'll know what you mean.

Now, as for firing it at you, that's uncalled for and his ankles would have been eating my two-hander next time he was near me. He's attemping to hurt you because he didn't touch the puck!! Not called for...

I second this post.
I play in the Ottawa area as well and goalies are in short supply. Are you playing because your father is playing or because they need a goalie? Eher way what he did was wrong and I see nothing wrong with what you did. He should have been more civilized about his issue.
At the same time it is just pick up. Just have fun dispite that guy. He would be better off on the other team and you could ask your father that you play opposite that guy, if it really bothers you palying with him.

[ScJeff]

Originally Posted by RebelGoalie27

Here's a thought... As the d-man is skating back toward the goalie facing him, a forward breaks wide open at the red line. The goalie sees it and makes the pass. The d-man, facing the wrong way, has no idea the forward is open. The goalie is right to pass it.

Id be willing to argue in a game hellz yah. In a shinny/pick up... its debatable.

[Honda123]

The shot towards your head was out of line but as for playing the puck, I believe it depends on the overall skill level of the players.

I played a few games as a favor where everyone regardless of skill level was encouraged to join in. Many of the players did not play ice hockey regularly and for some, it was the first time they tried it.

This may be an extreme example but I used to pass the puck up to the blue or center line whenever the puck came near me. Most of the players were slow and poor skaters so I felt bad that they put so much effort into chasing the puck into my zone only to have me fire it back out. With that realization, I decided to either leave the puck behind the net or just redirect it into a corner whenever it came close to me.

[abqtj]

Originally Posted by Honda123

The shot towards your head was out of line but as for playing the puck, I believe it depends on the overall skill level of the players.

There really shouldn't be a "BUT" after the first half of all these comments. Regardless of this d-man's "reasoning", it's uncalled for and someone could get hurt with a shot that isn't expected...we all know this as goalies.





(sorry honda, not singling you out, your post was just last).

[zambo]

Originally Posted by Ryeno42

If the "D" says "leave it" you leave it.

If they turn it over then do what you want.

They called it , then it is theirs.

The reason for this is that they might have a breakout play or something already set up in their head on what move to do when they get the puck.

"so i chipped it up the baords to my forward who got a breakaway. " Good work, you saw something and created a scoring opportunity, you obviously could see the situation better than someone with their back to the play, even if they did have a play; you managed to create a scoring opportunity (break away). If there was no one to pass to, best leave it, but I feel you did the right thing. As for him firing the puck at you, I like Twitch’s response, that would have been great.

"If they turn it over then do what you want." Which could be lining up for a face off at centre ice!

[puctrgt]

Smelly fish, happening....

[tommyboy27]

Originally Posted by PSULion22

Twice I have had a goalie hit me in the face with a puck he played after I had called him off. Both times, the goalie was looking for a breakaway pass and lifted the puck too high. I've also had my goalie hit me in the face with his stick a few times whie trying to play a puck when I was nearby. (no, not the same goalie every time).

Jesus. Just how big is that head of yours?

[PSULion22]

Originally Posted by zambo

"so i chipped it up the baords to my forward who got a breakaway. " Good work, you saw something and created a scoring opportunity, you obviously could see the situation better than someone with their back to the play, even if they did have a play; you managed to create a scoring opportunity (break away). If there was no one to pass to, best leave it, but I feel you did the right thing. As for him firing the puck at you, I like Twitch’s response, that would have been great.

"If they turn it over then do what you want." Which could be lining up for a face off at centre ice!

Originally Posted by zambo

Joined in 2005 and have been playing for 3 months, ya I would listen to you!! BTW if I ever get a chance to play on your line as a forward and you choose not to pass me the puck, when I have a obvious scoring opportunity, please don't be offended if I fire the puck at your head. WTF how can anyone justify this guys actions, what if he had actually hit him?? Oh yes I forgot he has a mask on, so he will be ok.

Wow, clearly you are the biggest moron on this board. Nice job, I didn't think anyone could beat #20. And, I just looked, you're 66 years old?! WTF, act your frickin age. Thanks for the largely irrelevant posts, was there anything useful you meant to get across? Probably not, as you likely have nothing useful to offer any of us.

Let's see, I joined in 2005, and had been playing for 3 months then, so that would make it 3 years and 3 months now. Surely not a pro, but long enough I can offer my input. I have also played defense at the college level, so I have quite a bit of hockey experience. Plus, I have something that many on here don't, and that's experience playing both goal and out. Because of that I can look at a situation from both sides. Not to mention, I would say I am a fairly high regarded member of this board, and my input is usually respected even when someone doesn't agree. Just last week, I received 3 PM's telling me exactly that. Who the F*** are you? You've been a member what, 6 months? Kind of ironic that you are commenting on the relevance of someone's post because of their experience, yet you are the newcomer here. If my post is invalid because of my inexperience, than surely yours is too.

Obviously your reading comprehension fails. Ryeno gets a thumbs up and I get a thumbs down and a tone I don't particularly appreciate, yet we both offer the same advice. How does that make sense? Are you really that dumb? Plus you fail to realize this all happened during an open skate! There is no consequence for making a mistake, other than possibly your teammates making fun of you for it. I said that shooting the puck at Jeff's head was out of line, as did everyone else on here. But when some people on here, and several of the people on the ice when it happened (which incidentally is something that neither you, me, or anyone else can say) which saw everything, sided against the goalie. Do you think that just maybe something Jeff did was inappropriate? We don't know the whole story, we didn't see the session. When someone says they like to play the puck a lot, always look to move the puck forward, and the guy was frustrated along with his teammates, a conclusion could probably be drawn that he does it a lot. That is very frustrating to defenders in an open skate when all the forwards usually do is cherry pick. If you have a goalie just sending them on breakaways, you give them no reason to come back on d or play as a team, and the defense doesn't touch the puck. That makes the skate no fun for anyone, except maybe the player who gets to practice his through the legs or lacrosse style breakaway moves. And I'll say it again, I'll even type big so you can read it without your reading glasses Shooting at Jeff's head was wrong. Oh, and if we played the whole time with me continually not passing to you in open scoring opportunities, you'd be pretty pissed off too. Now go take a nap old man, you pretty cranky. A******

Originally Posted by tommyboy27

Jesus. Just how big is that head of yours?

It's not as big as Leafer's!!

Usually getting hit was the result of me skating towards the goalie calling him to leave it, and then him playing it after I got too close. It was often trying to lift the puck to get it down rink to hit a guy on a breakaway.

[dannyho1]

Appearantly, the 55 year old spent most of his time in the closet, and didn't learn about the whole "TEAM" concept.

[Gators76]

Everyone missed the whole point. This is Pick Up Hockey. The object is for the Forwards and Defensemen to do whatever the hell they want, and for the goaltenders to "live with" odd man rushes, defensive follies and breakaways. Goaltenders are not supposed to play the postition the way they are taught during a pickup session.

For all we know the youngman who started this thread was playing with Paul Coffey and when Paul Coffey yells at you, you listen! Maybe, "Paul" was gonna go coast to coast with the puck and put a sweet move on the opposing goaltender like he used to do in Midgets. Instead, his moment was ruined.

[dannyho1]

EVEN PAUL, WOULD YEILD TO THE ODD MAN RUSH IF HE WAS DRAPED BY A, SAY, MARIO ( in pick up terms).