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Old 05-30-2002, 10:25 AM
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Unhappy Dead rebounds DIE DIE DIE!!!;)

Well, I have 2 problems concering this, and they both tie into eachother somewhat, so I will try to explain the best I can


1st problem
Deflecting puck into the corners/away from danger:
I always try to deflect the puck into the corners on my butterfly, half butterfly and pad saves and away form danger, and I manage to deflect the puck all right, toward the corner where it prompty stops, a juicy rebound ripe for the picking
The puck never goes into the corner!!! It just sits there just far enough away so i can't reach it, usually somewhere where an opposing player can just swat it in


2nd problem
Puck bouncing off of stick:
If I butterfly, and the puck hits my stick, sometimes, if I don't redirect it into the corner, it pops right back out!!! Again, just far enough so I can't reach it. I have tried holding my stick out more to deaden the puck, but it just ramps over my head, and we don't want the misfortune of the puck going over my head/shoulders and into the net now do we?
Ideas anyone?


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Old 05-30-2002, 11:41 AM
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Well, my weakness is definitely rebounds, but, on the first point it sounds like maybe the shots that are coming in aren't hard enough. Your stick deadens the shot, redirects it towards the corner, but it doesn't have enough momentum behind it. If this is the case, I would reccomend trying to "catch" the puck with the stick. Meaning start with the stick out front, away from the body, then as the puck gets close move the stick back to catch it. That way you can just cover it up with your glove.

Of course, on a blast this is hard to do, since reaction time is limited. But if the shot is a blast you should be able to redirect it to the corner just fine. The few times I actually do get my stick on a shot, it goes in the corner no problem. If the shot is really slow, then I will use the catching technique.

Hope this helps.
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Old 05-30-2002, 02:06 PM
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I agree with Chris. Sounds like the shots are too slow.

You have to learn three things to put pucks in the corner.

1st - stick work. If the puck is too slow, you must add a sweeping or poking motion with your stick to add a little bounce so it reaches the boards, or cushion per Chris' suggestion.

2nd, also stick - popping puck up is not necesarily bad - pop it up into your body, then grab the puck. Voila, no rebound. You don't generally want to pop it up over your head, because yes, it can go over you but not over the net. Try angling the blade to ramp it, but keeping the stick in a bit closer to your body, so it hits you instead of going over you.

3rd, regarding the puck not reaching the corners - you should make most saves with the stick, not the pads. Most shots are on the ice. In that case see #1.

4th - if the puck is up a bit, and you must make a pad or blocker save and are trying to send it to the corner, there are a bunch of things you can do.

a) try to grab or swallow the puck, in your body, instead of directing it.
b) try to get just enough of the puck to send it - otherwise you stop it too much, and instead of redirecting it, it bounces off you (slowly) and lies there. Redirect the shot, don't try to stop it and aim the rebound. Yes, this can be risky - you might not get enough.
c) Follow Chris's suggestion (can be done with pads as well as stick) and cushion the puck so it falls at your feet and cover it. Pull the pad backward a bit as the puck hits it.
d) If it is off your chest or pants, and so you cannot cushion it, be sharp and grab it on the way back out, before it is out of reach. You'd be suprised how fast the glove can move.
e) Worst case, as it goes out but before it is out of reach, smack it with your stick. Then it is at least moving faster, so it is harder for the bad guy to grab.
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Old 05-31-2002, 04:04 PM
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Thnx for the suggestions guys
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Old 05-31-2002, 07:04 PM
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Also regarding the stick, its not a bad thing to put kinda far in frnt of you, but as it hits your stick you should bring the stick back into your body to cushion the puck and most of the time when you do this the puck will stop right on your stick. It takes a long time to learn how to do this, so try it in practice before using it in a game.
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Old 06-01-2002, 09:31 PM
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Brickwall:


I tried doing that, and could never get comfortable with my stick so far out. I hold my stick inbetween far out and in close to my body.
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Old 06-01-2002, 09:39 PM
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Since you're having a hard time getting the rebounds to the corner, you need to learn how to cushion the puck effectively until you're proficient enough to get the biscuit to the corner with your stick.

There's a rule of thumb in goaltending regarding rebounds: you either want them to kick out 45 feet, or you want them dead at YOUR feet.

Since you're not able to get them to the corners yet (ideally you should learn how to cushion and kick out) you need to work on cradling the puck with your stick.

As Brickwall33 said, hold your stick further out, and move it in a bit as the puck hits it, just as if you were catching a pass.

Also, don't stab at the puck with your stick on half butterfly saves. Let them hit your pad and then cover up the rebound immediately. When you learn how to use your stick to deflect shots in the corners effeciantly (just work at it and it'll come) then you can have the option of getting it to the corner (which is good when there's traffic around) or having it hit the pad and covering up (which is good when you have the time and space.)

Hope I've helped.
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Old 06-02-2002, 04:22 PM
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Thnx bedris. I will definetly be working on my stick work next pick up
Thnx for all the suggestions guys!
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Old 06-05-2002, 03:23 PM
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Not to go to far off topic, but I think when it comes to rebounds, equipment can play an important part as well. I used to give HUGE rebounds with my old set of Koho's . My new Eagles barely make a thud. Puck just hits 'em and dies. I had to change my style a lot because of it. I have more control of rebounds, but I have to react faster, to pounce on them so that it doesnt just get 1 timed in from 2 feet away, lol....
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