Post to post coverage for wraparounds?

[PenguinMan]

I did a few searches and couldn't find much of anything, so here goes!

This weekend in particular, I got burned off of rebounds coming from wraparounds. What would happen is I would just barely beat the guy to the opposite post, the rebound wouldn't be controlled, and boom, easy tap in for the rebounder.

My current play system is this:
When I have time, if the play is going from catcher to blocker I'll paddle down and place my blcoker-side pad upright while leaving the trail leg along the goal line in a half butterfly, but I feel like that allows a whole lot of net to open up if the guy keeps skating up into the slot. If I rotate outwards more, I feel like I have no means of recovering to stop a pass to my back door. If I were to stay up in my stance and simply T-push over, I feel like my 5 hole (which is sizeable) would be a good target. I've experimented with the 2 pad, traditional vertical blocking save, but it's very difficult to push over and get the trail leg back and flush before the shot comes, especially when you wear boxier pads like I do.

I tend to not have this problem when going from blocker to catcher since the paddle down save feels more natural when the pad isn't in the way of the blocker hand, and because my left leg is my dominant one and I can push off if the guy walks into the slot.

Any suggestions?

[elite]

My biggest suggestion, and this will be explained much better on my website whenever I get the damn thing up, is to make a quarter circle with your skate to the opposite post. I think you're tall (right?) so it would be easy for you. Let me explain:

When you're on the glove-side post, make sure your leg/skate is outwards cutting down the angle as the player is going around your net. Then once the player is over half way around, you should be able to make a perfect quarter circle (with your blocker-side skate) back to the other post and hug the post with your blocker. Your glove side skate will come back towards the net and turn inward towards your blocker side post. This would be much easier to explain with a video.

Do you get what I'm saying, though?

[steduval1985]

When I attended Jon Elkin's school last summer, we did a drill to practice wraparounds, and this technique showed on the vaughn website was emphasised.

http://www.vaughnhockey.com/goaltend..._variation.htm

[PenguinMan]

Originally Posted by elite

My biggest suggestion, and this will be explained much better on my website whenever I get the damn thing up, is to make a quarter circle with your skate to the opposite post. I think you're tall (right?) so it would be easy for you. Let me explain:

When you're on the glove-side post, make sure your leg/skate is outwards cutting down the angle as the player is going around your net. Then once the player is over half way around, you should be able to make a perfect quarter circle (with your blocker-side skate) back to the other post and hug the post with your blocker. Your glove side skate will come back towards the net and turn inward towards your blocker side post. This would be much easier to explain with a video.

Do you get what I'm saying, though?

Absolutely, it's a quarter C-cut to the other post with the lead leg. What should I be doing with the trail leg, though? Dropping it into the half fly?

edit: I thought about this and it makes a whole lot more sense than rotating the entire foot first, THEN t-pushing. I actually do this movement from blocker to catch side, so clearly it's me just doing the movement wrong. Thanks!

[moose]

if you do go padle down keep you leg closest to the post at a angle so if there is a pass out then just push on that leg and you are bak on your feet

[leaferguy]

I'd be interested in a video.

[PenguinMan]

Here's my shoddy ASCII art to describe the movement:

Here's where you start (top two slashes indicate skates):
         __
       \   
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       |      |
       \______/

And here's where the skates go as you c-cut:


             
         |   \
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       |      |
       \______/

And here's where you end:


           /  |
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       |      |
       \______/

I was rotating the right foot 180 degrees then t-pushing, which is really dumb and awkward to do.

[Huntster]

Penguin, nice work on the diagram. That is how I play it as well.

[elite]

EXACTLY, Penguin. Nice diagram.. that's exactly what I was trying to get across. Sorry my description was a bit wordy!

But yeah, I'll definitely have a video of that on my site.

[PenguinMan]

Hilariously enough, I just realized that the motion above is exactly the one I use on ice. Why I don't do it on wheels is beyond me.

[avatarkava]

Originally Posted by PenguinMan

Hilariously enough, I just realized that the motion above is exactly the one I use on ice. Why I don't do it on wheels is beyond me.

Simple. Since you can't effectively shuffle playing roller, you've ingrained a need to T-push every time you move laterally.

[PenguinMan]

Originally Posted by avatarkava

Simple. Since you can't effectively shuffle playing roller, you've ingrained a need to T-push every time you move laterally.

Ah Hah!

I've taught myself to automatically T-push on any long movement (I step when following a player carrying the puck), so all I really need to do is teach myself to do what is essentially a reverse t-push (which is something I do on breakaways as is anyway).

[the_canadian_beast_00]

I don't know anything about going post to post for a wraparound...I have been known to go from bar to bar in search or a reach-around though.

Emile

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by the_canadian_beast_00

I don't know anything about going post to post for a wraparound...I have been known to go from bar to bar in search or a reach-around though.

Emile

You have values. I like you.

[cujofan31]

when in doubt just put each foot firmly against the post with the paddle down, never fails.