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Old 01-08-2007, 06:56 AM
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Adding Knee Stacks and Calf wing to Traditional Bauer Pads

OK, well I had some time this weekend, and with the abundance of posts on this site about making knee stacks, attaching said stacks and the like, I proceeded to go for it myself.

First of all, I obtained the necessary materials for the job:

HD (Closed cell foam, not sure of the density)
Cordura
Nylon thread.

That is it! I bought it all at a local fabric warehouse for cheap. I obtained the foam (1/2 running yard, 5 X 1 1.2 ft.) for $7, and a full yard (5 x 3 ft) of red Cordura for $3.

I also purchased two key tools...

Leather Sewing Awl (awesome tool!!)
Grommet tool

OK, first I sewed together all the stacks prior to installation. I am not going over how to make a stack because that is well covered in previous posts.

Finding an attachment point within the pad was key. I searched and there seemed to be no clear answer or appropriate spot. I went on what seemed to be comfortable for me, and anticipated movement of the stacks.

The Bauer GP5000 Reactors I own had no stacks and a feeble knee wing. I decided to attach a thin strip of cordure with grommets to the knee lock in the pad. The stacks I built were larger than the lock flap and outer wing, and given the anticipated motion, believed they would do better there. I used the sewing awl to attach the strip and proceeded to lace in the number of stacks desired. Luck for me, the lock flap was lined with synthetic leather.

Here are some pics:









Note how the flap is secured to the knee lock.

Next, I decided that with the additional knee support, some additional calf support would be wise. I found no threads on making calf wings, so I had to do little visulaization and peruse for good pics of calf wings/wedges in/on various threads/websites.

I would appreciate ANY COMMENTS as these will be sewn in permantly, and I hate anything that is permanent and not right.

Here is what I have so far...

The pad...



The height...



Notice the pinned the leading edge in the first pic. That leading edge will be sewn into the following gap in the rolls and the straps will go underneath and through some tabs I will sewn on...



Again, comments are welcome.
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Old 01-10-2007, 01:02 PM
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repalming a catcher:
http://goaliestore.com/board/showthread.php?t=60404
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:11 AM
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has anyone tried reducing the width of their pants? i searched this thread and couldn't find anything.

im currently wearing koho 590 pro and they really wide. just wondering how i would go about reducing the width.

Thanks, Will
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:23 PM
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Hmm, great idea, my Nittymaki pants are a touch to big for me i never thought of bringing them in a little.


BTW here is a link to the "How its made" bit they did on TV. Goalie pads.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSz81Mu9810
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:30 AM
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Changing colours

My team got new jerseys, and my old pants (Oilers’s Blue) didn’t quite match. I really like these pants (CCM Pro Returns) and they were still in very good shape, so I wasn’t going to replace them. I decided to try to change the colour instead. Going from dark blue to black shouldn’t be that difficult, or so I thought.

ORIGINAL PANTS



I wanted to keep this an easy, quick, and inexpensive project. I searched online for fabric dyes, found a few that should work, but didn’t want to wait or pay for shipping, which would likely cost more than the dye itself. I ended up buying Rit Concentrated Tint and Dye from Walmart. This dye is supposed to be suitable for nylon applications. I bought 4 packages, each package costing just under $2.
The pants were a 2 piece pant, so I took them apart, removed the lap shields, and removed the Oilers’ and NHL crests so that the dye didn’t make them inconspicuous. Incidentally, the seat/rear leg portion of the pant was double layer of nylon; very thick and durable. After washing the shell in a washing machine, I mixed up the dye in 2 litres of boiling water in a 20 litre pail. I tossed in the pant’s shell, pressed it down into the dye solution (more dye solution would have been beneficial), put the lid on the pail, and slowly agitated the pail to distribute the dye over the entire pant surface. After several hours I removed the pants and rinsed the surplus dye off. Once they were dry, I got to inspect my experiment. Foe the most part, the nylon accepted the dye, and the pants are black. However, there are spots where puck impacts with the pants have impregnated the pant nylon with rubber, and the dye did not soak in those areas. Those areas are not very noticeable since the puck marks are black anyways. The stretch material in the crotch and upper back of the pant shell did not accept the dye, and remain blue in colour. The embroidery on the front of the pant also accepted very little dye, and is now grey in colour.

DYED SHELL



SHELL, INNER PANT, AND LAP GUARDS



PANTS REASSEMBLED



Unless you get up close and have a bright ambient light or camera flash I doubt that few people will suspect that my pants were not always black in colour. They look dark. almost black, but I don’t know how long the colour will last. To be quite honest, I may never really be able to tell. While I had the shell apart from the rest of the pants, I noticed how simply they were constructed. If I was to use the lap shields from the pants I already have, I think the cost of materials for me to make a new shell out of new nylon and crotch stretch would be only slightly more than the $8 I spent on dye. I have decided to make a new shell for my pants. I’ll post the results once I’m done.

PART TWO
Seeing that we occasionally receive posts on the BB here inquiring about painting goal pads, I thought I would try a little experiment with the dye solution I had left over. Keep in mind that this was not a very scientific experiment under controlled conditions. I simply wanted to see the effect this dye had on synthetic leather (Jenpro and Robocop Weave). I just tossed in some scraps of Jenpro and weave into my leftover dye and let it soak for several days. I also tossed in a scrap of White Clarino (sold as Jenrino in Canada) and used in pads before Jenpro was imported. I agitated it occasionally, but I never bothered to monitor neither the solution temperature nor soaking time. The dye did not remain at an elevated temperature (which is conducive to dye penetration), and slowly cooled to room temperature.

Results: There was some change in colour. I also cut through the samples in several locations to see if the dye penetrated from one face or both faces of the sample. One Jenpro sample that soaked for a couple of hours changed from white to light grey, and the stain did not penetrate very deeply into the material. The other white Jenpro sample (which soaked for several days) turned a medium grey, with the dye penetrating almost through the entire thickness of the sample, but the dye penetration was approximately 60% through the back face of the sample, 20% through the front face of the sample, and 20% unaffected. The Clarino sample accepted the dye much better than the Jenpro. It came out much better, and the dye penetrated throughout the entire thickness of the sample. Robocop Weave has a metallic polyurethane coating applied to it. A white Robocop weave sample changed to a bronze type of colour, with dye penetration similar to that of the Jenpro. I also tossed in a Red Robocop sample. It turned very dark, almost black. The dye also penetrated right through the thickness of the material. I cannot provide an explanation for that.

SAMPLES FROM LEFT TO RIGHT

White Jenpro soaked for several hours
White Jenpro soaked for several days
White Clarino soaked for several days
White Robocop Weave soaked for several days
Red Robocop Weave soaked for several days

All samples ore placed on top of a piece of white Jenpro, although lighting conditions may make it appear otherwise

What did I learn from this? If you want to change the colour of the synthetic leather on your pads with a penetrating dye such as Rit Concentrated Dye, don’t bother trying. Unless you are able to use a large pressure cooker and able to submerse your pads within it at an elevated temperature and pressure, you probably won’t have much luck unless you are changing from a dark colour to an even darker colour, and you are able to apply a sit there and brush on fresh, hot applications of the dye for several days, keeping the surface saturated with dye. Other dyes may react differently.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:43 PM
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oooh, bad i dea. I did this to a pair of ol tackla's that were blue and i wanted em black. The color bled all over my gloves and back of my pads. i wasnt happy hope you have better luck. BTW a black shell would have run ya $40
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:42 PM
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The instructions said to rinse the fabric after dye application until the water ran clear. I rinsed and rinsed and rinsed (and rinsed some more), and after three games so far, no sign of bleeding.

Did you use the same kind of dye?

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Old 02-06-2007, 08:36 PM
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ya RIT i think it was. maybe you did it right then. i might not have it was a rush job on my part and this was many years ago when i had less patience than i do now.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:04 AM
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my thighboards keep getting stuck under my pants, anything i can do?
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:45 AM
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my thighboards keep getting stuck under my pants, anything i can do?
Sew a loop of tough fabric to the front or back of your pants near the bottom and lace your thighboard strap through that. If you do the front keep it super tight though. There are pictures earlier in the thread that showed where I sewed mine on the front.
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:50 PM
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About two weeks ago I sustained yet another hand injury to the back side of my trapper. In the past few years I’ve got a broke finger from a slash after covering a puck, took a puck to the end of my right ring finger causing blood to shoot from under the nail, and now (like a moron) I just reached up and “swatted” a slappper away from my face with the back of my hand. It hit on the edge of my hand just below the little finger. No broken bones but bruised so deep that the palm of my hand was black and blue. Yes I know had my mitt been up, open and ready (something I preach to the kids I coach) I would have just caught the puck but stuff happens. I figured the thumb is protected why not the fingers and the back of the hand. Here’s the mod I’ve done to help protect my hand.

First I took the hard plastic board out of an old blocker and cut in half.


Next using camping foam I made a pattern and traced it onto the board then cut it to shape w/ tin snips.


Using a propane torch I slowly heated the plastic and bent it to shape to conform to the contour of my glove. (The burn marks are from some residual glue that discolored, and yes I know my work bench is a train wreck)



I then slid both the camping foam & “board” under the thin padding covering the fingers on the back side of the trapper.


It took a little additional trimming and fitting to get it just right w/o exposing any fingers and maintaining flexibility but as far as I can tell it’ll work well. My hand is still bruised bad enough that I can’t really close my hand w/o sharp pain so pucks that hit in the palm just drop to the ice. I’ll give an up date after a little more play time.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:35 PM
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Would anyone happen to have a piece of 2x1 inch of sport gold weave or non weave jenpro that they would be willing to send me? I need to do a small patch job.

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Old 02-07-2007, 09:44 PM
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I don't have any yellow... I have sport gold, but not yellow. Try to get ahold of dinoman or chriso... they may have some... even Scott Battram may have a small piece he can sell you. The other option is nash.
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:54 PM
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I don't have any yellow... I have sport gold, but not yellow. Try to get ahold of dinoman or chriso... they may have some... even Scott Battram may have a small piece he can sell you. The other option is nash.
On second look i do need sport gold not yellow. pm to ya!
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:57 PM
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jenpro scrap

I'll check and see if I have some.I have a huge bin full of oddball colors and I may have that.
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