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Old 04-13-2008, 06:22 AM
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I am looking for help on how to clean my pads. I have tried different techniques on cleaning the nylon on the outside, back and leg channel of my pads yet nothing is working. I have searched this thread and found nothing. Anyone with any advice???



Another thing,
The toes on both my pads are wearing down bad.



I think I have a good idea on how to replace them, but I am not the most handy of persons so should I have this professionally done seeing its a high wear area and it basically holds the pad together?
try using mr. clean magic erasers
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:35 PM
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I have had my eye on the V3 c/a for a while now. I went to the store and they had it in my size (according to Vaughn's sizing shart). Everything fit well, however, it is hanging down too low in the front and is exposing my neck/collarbone (even when the top straps are as tight as they go). When I pull the unit back up on my shoulders, it fit perfectly. The straps are as tight as they go. If I bought it, would there be any mods that I can do to pull it back more? I have heard of using a key clip or a fight strap, but I'm not sure how that works. Thanks

(I did a search on this, but not much came up. I wasn't quite sure what search terms to use.)
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:13 PM
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you could do what i did. look at my v3 C/A review
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:33 PM
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changing colors of leg pads

I have a pair of Senior Heaton Helite Z's and I was wanting to add yellow to them to match my glove and blocker. I was wondering if anybody has done this before or knows how to add more color or change the color of leg pads? Also I was wondering if anybody has added knee stacks to these exact pads and if anybody has what would be the easiest way to attach them? Thanks.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:30 PM
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I have a pair of Senior Heaton Helite Z's and I was wanting to add yellow to them to match my glove and blocker. I was wondering if anybody has done this before or knows how to add more color or change the color of leg pads? Also I was wondering if anybody has added knee stacks to these exact pads and if anybody has what would be the easiest way to attach them? Thanks.
I am in the process of doing so...in a way. I removed the knee landing(unlaced and unstitched) and then i took a TPS squared landing block and laced it in. There's a chance that i might add one thin lift as i might remove the knee lock. Next step is to change the knee wing with a square one and finally replace the corduroy on the calf guard with some jenpro.




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Old 04-17-2008, 10:34 AM
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So Richman is the knee lift your putting in as thick as the one that was already in it? Why are you putting in a new one and why are wanting to change the knee wing to a square one?
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:27 AM
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So Richman is the knee lift your putting in as thick as the one that was already in it? Why are you putting in a new one and why are wanting to change the knee wing to a square one?
Yes, the lift is essentially as thick as the original but shaped differently as you see. I wanted something a little bigger, as most from other pads on the market. I also want the knee wing to match and give me sufficient coverage and contact surface for my b-fly.

The Z pads are the only pads on the market that i've seen such an unusual knee lift/wing set-up, other than the Reason Y pads. The landing will basically resemble that of my Velo pads...

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Old 04-17-2008, 03:34 PM
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Does anyone feel kind enough to hook me up with some white jenpro or similar material so that I could do the same? I need a couple strips about as big as what is seen here. I don't even know where to buy the material, and I'm sure the amount that I would have to buy would be much more than I actually need.
fabric store, or a great connection for doing stitching etc, is shoemakers. those old school dudes who fix shoes and fix up and repair almost any goalie gear
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:25 PM
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added some new knee stackers, vaughn ones worked well, much bigger and more coverage, i found the itech ones were too small and my knee would roll off and hit the ice from time to time.
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:31 PM
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glove modifaction

i found my itech cheapo 4.8 x-wing glove was way too under protective on the outside. so i cut up a small tray i bought at the dollar store, cut it to fit the shape of the glove, then marked and drilled the holes where the laces go, and strung it all up. it feels so much better now.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:44 PM
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What kind of adhesive or glue should I use to attach the foam padding in my helmet?
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:15 AM
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What kind of adhesive or glue should I use to attach the foam padding in my helmet?

PLumber's Goop... go to Lowes or Home Depot and ask for it by name. Worked fine for me.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:57 AM
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How To: Add a pro palm to your glove.

I posted this in my thread about my Itech 7.8 X-Wings and the mods that I did to my set, but I figured that it would be worth it to post here, as well:

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So, I have finally been able to address a couple of issues that I have had with my 7.8 X-Wing glove.

First, I have to say that the glove was much, much stiffer than the 12.8 X-Wing glove, or, to compare to another mid range glove, it did not have that pre-broken in feel of say the RBK 8K glove. I steamed this glove twice in one night with a commercial steamer and worked the glove for hours. I have had it for 8 months and have used it probably about twice per week and I have recently just begun to be able to close it fully.

On the positive side, I do have to say that the glove flattens well to seal completely along the ice when covering pucks without that gap in the top of the tee like many newer gloves have.

Onwards to my major issues and mods: despite the fact that the glove is not the easiest to close, I have noticed that the protection along the break is lacking. I play mostly roller and most shots haven't affected me, but with some harder shooters that I've been up against, and in playing ice, I have taken some stingers on the knuckles at the base of my fingers mostly and also some on my fingers themselves.

I also noticed that the area of the glove where the knuckles at the base of my fingers are (red box in the below picture) bubbled outwards and very easily bunched up when pushing downward on the top of the glove.



this picture shows how the glove slightly bubbled outwards. It is much more extreme when flexing the glove. And actually affected closure by pushing into the thumb portion of the glove when closing it.



I suspected that the cause of the frequent stingers in this area as well as the bubbling up of the glove were both because the internal plastic in the palm of the glove did not come down that far.

I was right as here you can see that the red line illustrates where the plastic ended. This red line roughly corresponds to the stitching on both the foam inside the glove and the stitching on the face of the glove at the top of the box in the previous picture of the glove:



Here, you can see some other pictures, which show the HD face behind the skin of the glove as well as the thick layer of felt behind the plastic. Note the crease in the HD foam illustrates where the plastic ends and the area that bubbles up actually has a seperate piece of HD foam between this crease and the actual break in the glove.




What I decided to do was to create a pro palm in the glove. I basically followed this guide line put forth by Davieboy as to what a pro palm actually is:

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Almost all pro models (any brand) have the same basic internals. There is a piece of felt sandwiched between the finger plastic and some skate liner material (tan jenpro) or NASH. A double palm has two layers of this material. Then the thumb plastic is backed by some foam. Those pieces create the break and shape of your glove. Now some companies will beef up these areas for pro's but for the retail versions they are all basically the same.

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I added another layer of plastic and another layer of foam (since I didn't have any of this roughly 1/4" thick, heavy duty felt), to create a pro palm in the glove. The foam is 1/4" cheap/soft yoga mat that I have used on many goalie equipment projects. The plastic is the same 1/16" ultra high molecular weight (UHMW) Polyethylene that I have previously used in my slide plates and in other goalie equipment projects.

Here is a picture of the additional plastic, as well as the (gray) foam in front of the exising HD foam (black) and plastic:



I made sure that this plastic went all the way down to the break in the glove and covered the previously mentioned vulnerable area as well as the area in front of my fingers. note the holes that are punched in the foam and the plastic are how I secured the new pieces in the glove: I used the existing lacing to keep them in place. The holes in the foreground are where the lacing travels through the glove to keep the internals in place while the holes in the background are actually where the lacing that secures the binding and the catch glove pocket are.


Here you can see the stainless steel tanners glove lacing needle that I used. It has a dull point and a hollow back, which is threaded. You simply burn/melt the end of the nylon cord and screw it into the back of the needle:



In the process of adding these pieces, I decided to add my own lacing in the middle area of the glove that was bulging out. The lacing goes through the skin of the the glove, the foam and plastic pieces that I added and also knot behind the existing layers of foam, plastic and felt.

It is the white nylon cord (I didn't have any gray to match the existing cord) in the background of this picture. The blue smears are from a blue sharpie marker that I used as an indicator as to where to punch the holes for the additional lacing:



And the finished product:


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Old 04-28-2008, 09:12 PM
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GREAT job and very interesting to read c0nquistad0rian! Have you thought about creasing the internals of the glove to make it easier to close? Would that even add any effect?

Richman, great job! What kind of foam are you going to use for the knee wings?
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:40 AM
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GREAT job and very interesting to read c0nquistad0rian! Have you thought about creasing the internals of the glove to make it easier to close? Would that even add any effect?
Thanks, Zay!

Yeah, it had crossed my mind to try to do something to make the glove easier to close. If I were going to do that, probably what I would have done is cut the felt along the break. But more importantly, I wouldn't want to do anything would would decrease protection. I would rather deal with a stiff glove and catch a puck with an open pockey a la Lundqvist than do something that could potentially decrease protection and possibly make the glove break down more quickly. I prefer to break it in naturally (or simulating a natural break in, such as steaming.)
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