I made slide plates and I like them

[Vice]

Originally Posted by chrisco

HDPE and UHMW are quite different, in both properties and cost. Nash will sell 1/16" HDPE (which is what is generally used in hockey equipment), for less than $20 for a 52" x 21" sheet, but I understand they don't always like to sell to just anyone. Their target market is the repair shops, not the end user. Try something old school and check your yellow pages under PLASTICS, or try

http://www.gepolymershapes.com/polys...ernational.jsp

I actually tried GE Polymershapes here in Edmonton. They said they didn't carry UHMW in 1/16 thickness, and they referred me to the place I got my sheet of plastic from.

[chrisco]

Originally Posted by c0nquistad0rian

chrisco, could you expand on the HDPE vs. UHMW differences, if you know? I figured that one of the big factors to be considered for goalie equipment should obviously be impact resistance. And, in looking at their properties on the mcmaster-carr site, I noticed that UHMW had a much higher impact resistance than HDPE. Albeit, I don't know much about the tests done to measure this, but it made me wonder why HDPE was used in goalie equipment at all.

The Plastizote foams used in modern pads is an expanded HDPE (High Density PolyEthylene). The solid plastic used to shield the foam and disperse the impact is HDPE. The plastic in your trapper, thumbs on your blocker, and rigid plastic in shin pads, pants, elbow pads and shoulder pads are all HDPE. Although its impact resistance may not be as great as that of UHMW polyethylene, it is adequate, and considerably lighter and less expensive. UHMW PE is generally overkill for hockey equipment. However, I do have concerns regarding the use of HDPE in some applications which may be of concern when making slide plates. I expressed those concerns in a post on the GBBB.
http://www.goalieboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=5008

About a year ago I bought a 24" x 40" piece of 0.055" HDPE for less than $13 from GE Polymershapes, but for any future purchases I am going to deal with Johnsons instead because I am more interested in working with industrial materials.

[Huntster]

Here is my attempt at slide plates. I have a game tomorrow so I don't have to wait long to see how they perform.

[leaferguy]

If they stick to your pads, which they look like they will, you should enjoy some pretty nice movement

Care to elaborate on the toe setup? Looks interesting...

[Huntster]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

If they stick to your pads, which they look like they will, you should enjoy some pretty nice movement

Care to elaborate on the toe setup? Looks interesting...

I don't use toe ties so I bolted the plastic to the toes using that area. I then used a zip tie to help secure the inner toe area to the toe tie area. I made a slit for my bottm strap to run through to keep the bottom part anchored on.

I just don't know how well the two-sided tape I used will hold.

[Keeps33]

Anyone ever used these on ice!? im curious to see how much faster it might be, if at all.

[leaferguy]

I can't with the velcro; the adhesive is too crappy to withstand the cold ice.

[Mr6Vezinas]

Wow...great idea. I wonder where you really got it from.

Just watch those two 'snip' points near the toe. If they get stuck between the tiles, the plates are either going to be de-velcroed, or cause a tear.

-Bert

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by Mr6Vezinas

Wow...great idea. I wonder where you really got it from.

Just watch those two 'snip' points near the toe. If they get stuck between the tiles, the plates are either going to be de-velcroed, or cause a tear.

-Bert

We all know you're the original sled man. I couldn't get a hold of you, so I had to improvise my own little solution.

The toes have been alright so far, but they could stand to be curved a little more inward, just in case.

[Mr6Vezinas]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

We all know you're the original sled man. I couldn't get a hold of you, so I had to improvise my own little solution.

The toes have been alright so far, but they could stand to be curved a little more inward, just in case.

Heh, it's cool. I've been MIA.

Any peice that sticks out past the pad, or doesnt lay flat on the pad is subject to get jammed in between the tiles. The first time it happens, its surprising. After that, its not a big deal. It just wears on them more than you would like. The tighter the better. Maybe be a little more liberal with the velcro, so there is less for the plate to hang on its own.

On the underside of the pad, how far is it from the inside of the pad to the boot strap? Is it possible to reach that with the sled, and lace the strap through it? Might be uncomfortable, but it really helps with getting stuck in the tiles.
I would take pics of my new ones, but I'm at work.

Over the years I found that the inside gusset sliders never really helped with anything except reducing wear on the pads. But I was never good enough to do half-butterfly 'shuffle' pushes, which is where I can see it helping.

Also, Congrats on making Nationals.

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by Mr6Vezinas

Heh, it's cool. I've been MIA.

Any peice that sticks out past the pad, or doesnt lay flat on the pad is subject to get jammed in between the tiles. The first time it happens, its surprising. After that, its not a big deal. It just wears on them more than you would like. The tighter the better. Maybe be a little more liberal with the velcro, so there is less for the plate to hang on its own.

On the underside of the pad, how far is it from the inside of the pad to the boot strap? Is it possible to reach that with the sled, and lace the strap through it? Might be uncomfortable, but it really helps with getting stuck in the tiles.
I would take pics of my new ones, but I'm at work.

Over the years I found that the inside gusset sliders never really helped with anything except reducing wear on the pads. But I was never good enough to do half-butterfly 'shuffle' pushes, which is where I can see it helping.

Also, Congrats on making Nationals.

Yeah, so far I've been lucky in that the contour of the toe piece has kept it from sticking, but I can imagine it'll feel great when it does happen I'm probably going to get away from the velcro and use Boss' method (listed above). The velcro is dangerously unreliable and not very good with temperature changes.

I'm doing a set of these for ****** (his name only has one m...), and I'm going to be putting the strap through the boot piece. The big challenge is to put enough slack in the opening so that it doesn't rip the strap to shreds, but you know that already

The inside gusset sliders work for some reason on my pads. I'm barely good enough to stand up, but they help when going side to side on wraparounds. I've yet to try and actually perform a downpush, but that may be possible now... Maybe I can advance my goaltending techniques to the 21st century

Thanks; it was fun.

I'll have a more in-depth review now that I've played in them a lot shortly. I'll also post pics of the Demons I do.

[Mr6Vezinas]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

I'm doing a set of these for ****** (his name only has one m...), and I'm going to be putting the strap through the boot piece. The big challenge is to put enough slack in the opening so that it doesn't rip the strap to shreds, but you know that already

I use a leather punch (just looks like a big nail) and punched two holes in the plastic about an inch apart. then just cut out the space between them for the straps. Easily sizable for any strap. And if you are still worried about ripping the straps, just sand down the slot.

Since I am revealing all my secrets, the material I used to use is very similar to what you are using. I stumbled upon it because it was an unwanted christmas present for my dad. It is sold from outdoor's supplier Cabela's, and was made to carry deer carcasses. Don't worry, none of the sleds I made for goalies were ever from USED deer removers.
Shown here: Deer Sleigh'r

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by Mr6Vezinas

Since I am revealing all my secrets, the material I used to use is very similar to what you are using. I stumbled upon it because it was an unwanted christmas present for my dad. It is sold from outdoor's supplier Cabela's, and was made to carry deer carcasses. Don't worry, none of the sleds I made for goalies were ever from USED deer removers.

HAHAHAHA

I'm gonna call Appel Bambi from now on

It may be interesting to use that material and the UHMW HDPE in combination. Maybe the Deer Sleigh'r for the gussets and the stuff from McMaster for the boot/knee areas... Interesting

[Batmite29]

which would stick on better, as in not coming off at all... velcro or double sided tape?

[leaferguy]

Originally Posted by Batmite29

which would stick on better, as in not coming off at all... velcro or double sided tape?

I haven't found a good double-sided tape yet, and I've used a few...

The velcro has a better adhesive for heating up. It gets really sticky and dries strong as hell after 24 hours.