Show off Your Butterfly

[efstratios1]

Haha nice photochops!

And yes it's a FR stick...I flip and shoot right...it's taken a beating. Lasted 1 year of clinics and play...so I guess I'm lucky.

[TOMINATOR31]

Originally Posted by Trevor16cup08

Here is my butterfly with my itechs that leave a nice little hole at the bottom(i just dropped and tryed to take an honest picture of what i would do in game). Its not a great butterfly but everytime i try to work on my butterfly i start getting hip issues so screw it im fine with this coverage.

You seem to have some overotation, you must wear your pads pretty loose?

[Cujo_64]

Originally Posted by efstratios1

Haha nice photochops!

And yes it's a FR stick...I flip and shoot right...it's taken a beating. Lasted 1 year of clinics and play...so I guess I'm lucky.

those gloves dont look like they are working for you.... send them my way

im also suprised there was no beach ball behind you !!!

rob

[Trevor16cup08]

Originally Posted by TOMINATOR31

You seem to have some overotation, you must wear your pads pretty loose?

Yea i wear them pretty loose because i have the luongo pants and they seem to require a little extra space around the knee. I should try tightening them up a bit.


Here is a pic of them pads done up with the pants on.

[TIMMAAYY]

Sievie D's stepping it up, since we've all become students of his teachings.

Bow to the new improved Sievie D!

[Sprawl]

Originally Posted by efstratios1

I don't even have to look at the puck...my gloves are set to auto-catch

Try catching pucks going into the net, Not ones going wide of the posts

its not a save if it's going to miss the net

[geardawg33]

Originally Posted by Bulletproof

Couple of mine, constructive critisim please

how come you are paying with kids who are 2 feet tall and can barely skate?

[Cujo_64]

Originally Posted by TIMMAAYY

Sievie D's stepping it up, since we've all become students of his teachings.

Bow to the new improved Sievie D!

right click, save as background !!! LOL CLASSIC !!!

[Mad_Greek]

I have some comments, after thinking about it for a bit and seeing several ppl now say it, to those who are saying guys like bulletproof have their gloves too low and they should be higher:-

If your gloves are low (not double covering, but low) and your arms are in tighter to your body, you actually are putting yourself in a better position to react to varying shots and are covering more net.

For example, if your gloves are lower and arms tighter, it allows you a free range of motion to come up and at the puck, whereas if your gloves are high and your arms are away from your body, you have to drop them to cover wholes between your arms and body and pads, often making it harder to actually catch the puck, rather than just blocking it.

If your angles are good and you employ forward motion/drop in your BFLY, then your need to move/react to most shaves can be minimized as you are positioned well, covering most wholes. In addition, applying forward motion/drop allows you more time to read/react to shots as you actually can start off deeper in your net.

Also, for a blocking type goalie (i.e. Giggy) rather than a reactional type goalie (i.e Martty B.) you are maintaing a larger blocker area with your gloves lower and your arms tighter to your body (you are maintaining more of a mass of coverage), but again, your angles and forward motion/drop should still be applied to cover more net. If you are too deep, you loose coverage up top (which is the issue with smaller/younger goalies loosing coverage, like BP).

Just my 2 cents.

[Vaughngoalie3]

Originally Posted by Mad_Greek

I have some comments, after thinking about it for a bit and seeing several ppl now say it, to those who are saying guys like bulletproof have their gloves too low and they should be higher:-

If your gloves are low (not double covering, but low) and your arms are in tighter to your body, you actually are putting yourself in a better position to react to varying shots and are covering more net.

For example, if your gloves are lower and arms tighter, it allows you a free range of motion to come up and at the puck, whereas if your gloves are high and your arms are away from your body, you have to drop them to cover wholes between your arms and body and pads, often making it harder to actually catch the puck, rather than just blocking it.

.

Very true, But it also means you have a lot farther to go to make a save in most cases. If somebody goes top corner, you have to bring your arm alllllllll the way up. Whereas if you have your hand about halfway up the height of the net, you only need to move 2 feet or less in either direction. Thats the way I look at it anyways.

[west]

Yeah, but you should be following the puck, so if the shot is high, then your glove will never be low.

[expy]

Originally Posted by Mad_Greek

I have some comments, after thinking about it for a bit and seeing several ppl now say it, to those who are saying guys like bulletproof have their gloves too low and they should be higher:-

If your gloves are low (not double covering, but low) and your arms are in tighter to your body, you actually are putting yourself in a better position to react to varying shots and are covering more net.

For example, if your gloves are lower and arms tighter, it allows you a free range of motion to come up and at the puck, whereas if your gloves are high and your arms are away from your body, you have to drop them to cover wholes between your arms and body and pads, often making it harder to actually catch the puck, rather than just blocking it.

If your angles are good and you employ forward motion/drop in your BFLY, then your need to move/react to most shaves can be minimized as you are positioned well, covering most wholes. In addition, applying forward motion/drop allows you more time to read/react to shots as you actually can start off deeper in your net.

Also, for a blocking type goalie (i.e. Giggy) rather than a reactional type goalie (i.e Martty B.) you are maintaing a larger blocker area with your gloves lower and your arms tighter to your body (you are maintaining more of a mass of coverage), but again, your angles and forward motion/drop should still be applied to cover more net. If you are too deep, you loose coverage up top (which is the issue with smaller/younger goalies loosing coverage, like BP).

Just my 2 cents.

That is true in most cases, but it depends on the distance of the player and the placement of their shot.

If they are around half way between you and the blue line then you have time to react, so I like to cover with my glove about half a foot or a foot above my pads from that distance. For in close shots, probably a bit more in tight and lower to the ice trying to cut down the angle by going up the crease.

It's totally situation based.

[snooz]

Originally Posted by EdwardL

His stick position is wrong.

his stick positioning is actually excellent. rather than having the puck sit in front of his stick, which could potentially be taken away before he can cover it, the puck will ramp into his stomach/chest for an easy cover.

that kid has BY FAR the best butterfly in this thread.

[EdwardL]

Originally Posted by snooz

his stick positioning is actually excellent. rather than having the puck sit in front of his stick, which could potentially be taken away before he can cover it, the puck will ramp into his stomach/chest for an easy cover.

that kid has BY FAR the best butterfly in this thread.

Can someone find the Keeks post on stick position?

Found it, that was easy. http://www.goaliestore.com/board/doc...-tips-3-a.html

For some reason, I have begun to see goalies over the last
several years misusing their sticks when they butterfly. The technical mistake occurs when the goalie places their stick blade on the ice angled back like a 9-iron. It is disconcerting to see young goalies holding their stick incorrectly when they butterfly.

When the stick is used in this manner pucks needlessly deflect up into the goaltender’s waist area or into their leg pads causing rebounds that are impossible to consistently control.

[fleuryrocks29]

Originally Posted by Trevor16cup08

Here is my butterfly with my itechs that leave a nice little hole at the bottom(i just dropped and tryed to take an honest picture of what i would do in game). Its not a great butterfly but everytime i try to work on my butterfly i start getting hip issues so screw it im fine with this coverage.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4562/itechsqj3.jpg

I must add in here that a butterfly it is not just the pads that make the butterfly. It is you as a whole, where you are in your net, your hand positioning, stick positioning etc. etc.

To base your butterfly on your leg positioning alone is madness!!

But your pads do seem to be over rotating, maybe try them a little tighter. I have my pads tight, and I love it, perfect butterfly closure.

Originally Posted by EdwardL

Can someone find the Keeks post on stick position?

Found it, that was easy. http://www.goaliestore.com/board/doc...-tips-3-a.html

I did that before it was cool to do it