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Old 07-28-2001, 01:54 AM
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Review of Koho 570 C/A

Please note that this is only an initial review, but Stjoe30 asked for this in the other C/A thread and this might have been off that topic so here goes:

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Is the 570 built up or flimsy? In the Perani's catalogue it looks to be very..thin maybe? If you could review it sometime that would be great. thanks!
Chris
Look, I donīt have any experience with Vaughn or Miller or other brands which are hard or impossible to get in Finland,
but I can tell you this, it definitely is not flimsy. It felt much more protective in the arms, chest, belly, everything.

I will also have to stress the fact that the old Pallas C/A I used for three seasons is only for intermediate or Semi-Pro level. Itīs specs are bound to be less than the ones with the Koho 570 or even a Heaton (which are constantly being bashed and definitely NOT recommended on this BB)


The Koho 570 C/A also works well with the Koho gloves, I can tuck it in nicely. Also it provides wrist protection in a longer distance than my old one.

One bad feature is that there is no padding in the back of the wrist. It doesnīt wrap around to the back side (the side the nurse would take your blood sample from ). I guess Iīll have to use slash guards as I did with the old C/A and just wear them in a way that they close the "gap".

I have to look into this "con" and see if I can get the gap closed by wearing the wrist velcro strap tighter, but Iīd hate to give up wrist mobility.

Regarding my old C/A I can, however, tell you that I got only ONE bruise in my rookie season using it, slapshots and all.
I got a nasty bruise in my left shoulder when a snapshot hit a seam point in the padding. It didnīt hit the actual shoulder pad but the seam point between it and the chest pad. That hurt like hell and I had to twist and turn my arm for the rest of the game. I bit the bullet and kept playing but we ended up losing the game.

The Koho 570 does not have the similar problem with a lesser protected area in the shoulder. The shoulder floaters are wider to begin with and the actual pad that goes right over the shoulder (what is it called in English again?) is better than what I used to have and has thorough protection all over.

Another good thing about the 570 is that itīs VERY comfortable to wear, when you put your arms in, it feels much softer because of the good, soft inner lining.

So far, with no ice time with it, the only bad thing about it is the above mentioned "gap" in the back of the wrist with no protection. But who would have their arms facing the puck the wrong way anyhow?

Except maybe in a scramble where you desperately have to dive and throw up your arms and the puck has a chance of hitting the gap.

This initial review wonīt do justice to the C/A because itīs only initial and I havenīt used the piece on ice but hope this helps.

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Old 07-28-2001, 08:54 AM
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The Koho 570 does not have the similar problem with a lesser protected area in the shoulder. The shoulder floaters are wider to begin with and the actual pad that goes right over the shoulder (what is it called in English again?) is better than what I used to have and has thorough protection all over.

Are you refering to the "shoulder cap"? The cap is the rounded, plastic piece that rests right on the shoulder. It is beneath the shoulder floater.

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Old 07-28-2001, 09:46 AM
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But who would have their arms facing the puck the wrong way anyhow?


Surprisingly, I get hit there on my blocker arm every now and then. I'm not sure how, really.

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Old 07-28-2001, 12:46 PM
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Are you refering to the "shoulder cap"? The cap is the rounded, plastic piece that rests right on the shoulder. It is beneath the shoulder floater.

I meant what I said about the floaters, I know that they are.
Thanks for clarifying the term. I meant shoulder caps, of course. They are solid and thorough.

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Old 07-28-2001, 12:49 PM
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Surprisingly, I get hit there on my blocker arm every now and then. I'm not sure how, really.

Patrick
Well, slash guards it is then. Some Scandinavian pro goalies use them. Stefan Liv in Sweden and former NHLer Kari Takko who retired a year ago. In fact they wore the same slash guards as me, the Bauer ones.

Actually, when I had to wear the slash guard last season because there was a gap between the arm of my C/A and my glove in certain positions, it saved my wrist on a few occasions..


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Old 07-28-2001, 01:03 PM
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The weird thing is, though, is that...it doesn't hurt. I cringe and wince in anticipation of the pain, but it never comes. I've started using sweatbands recently; they're the only thing closest to slash guards I could find around here. Thanks tho.

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Old 07-28-2001, 01:21 PM
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Thanks for the review! Ive seen pics all over the place of this thing and really had'nt seen one in person or heard of anyone using one until now. thanks again!
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Old 08-22-2001, 12:01 AM
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Well, I used it for the first time on Monday. Itīs surprisingly mobile. It didnīt feel that "new" and inflexible at all. On Monday I wore it outside my pants, today I will try tucking it in.
I took a couple of slappers right in the chest, no problems. They didnīt put my shoulders to the test yet though.
The slash guards felt comfortable under the arms of the C/A.


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Old 09-06-2001, 09:41 PM
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Can we get an update Topi? I''ve still got my eye on this unit and would like to hear your updated comments. I have the AB540 model which was the top end model. Is the Cell-U-layer restrictve at all or is it bulky?

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Old 09-06-2001, 10:20 PM
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*starts chanting loudly* UPDATE!UPDATE!UPDATE!UPDATE!
an update would be appreciated, i to am looking into the 570 c/a, and any info would be nice.
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Old 09-07-2001, 12:35 AM
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Tucking a C/A in the pants for the first time in my career felt weird, but only at the first time. I have now been on the ice nine times and tucked the C/A in for the last 7 or 8.
Cell-u-Layer is definitely not bulky.

Still havenīt had a real hard slapper hit my shoulder, but this morning I got hit in the upper arm (bicep) by an honest slapshot, the unit responded very well. No bruise.

Like it so far, but shoulders have not been put to a test yet. No problems with the chest/abdomen areas.
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Old 09-07-2001, 12:48 AM
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How is the rib protection? What is the effectiveness of the pad when it comes to net coverage and rebounding. Is the unit easy to "control"? I wear mine outside the pants, personally, you don't have any restrictions with it tucked?

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Old 09-07-2001, 03:13 PM
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how is the elbow protection??? have you got hit there yet???
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Old 09-08-2001, 02:46 AM
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It is comfortable and mobile, no restrictions. Elbow protection is good, but I have never gotten hit in the elbow by a puck, even with my old C/A (which I sold last night)
Only times when my elbows get hit is if they hit the ice when I fall down or something.
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Old 09-10-2001, 01:05 AM
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Well, took the first slapshot to the shoulder on Saturday night. Bad thing was, the puck rebounded in front, and they scored. Good thing was it was only a scrimmage with no refs

About the shot, I think it hit me in the arm just below the shoulder cap, as the bruise is in my bicep.
It stung for a while, left a minor bruise, no delayed pain in the next morning or anything.

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