Pro Hybrid Training Instructional Video

[Big Daddy D]

finally, someone has come out with a proper instructional video for today's goalie

Zach from pro hybrid and I got back a number of years, he was a longtime customer and just a total goalie head, I'm not surprised that after this playing days ended he went into instructing.

here's a clip from the dvd, it's available now at goalie heaven, $39.99 and worth every penny for some added instruction. When you consider that some coaches are near the $200 an hour range for top level instruction and most goalies do not get any specific coaching while at practise, these techniques are translatable to by yourself practise on ice and even just the fundamentals can be incorporated into your play.

YouTube - The ProHybrid Goaltending System DVD Vol.1 Promo

I tried to embed a clip, but I can't figure this out...click that

[RichMan]

So i looked at the promo. Now it might just be that MY definition of a "hybrid" goalie is different but...where in the video it the emphasis on the "hybrid"?

It seemed like a a b-fly approach with some recoveries, a little shuffling, some posts paddle downs. Where is the "stand-ups" and "skate saves" and "split saves" and "2 pad stacks"? Those moves, plus the "b-fly", are very much what makes the "hybrid" what it is, a barrage of save selections in active analyzed situations. At least that is what it is to me.

Anyone?

[Big Daddy D]

I guess it depends on what your definition of hybrid is. I think the idea is it is more reactive and less blocking. skate saves and split saves are just poor save selections in ordinary situations. This guy is going to teach you to be the next Billy Ranford, but he's not going to just show you how t be the next Giguere either. Keep in mind you're seeing about 4 minutes of a 45 minute video.

[#20]

1 stand-up save in the whole clip. There were tons of bfly save there that could've been done standing up. Its a marketing gimmick... I'll pass

[Lord of the Cage]

Guys, it is a promotional video. It's a sampler.

In today's game of hockey there is no such thing as stand-up, butterfly or hybrid goaltenders. Those are old classifications that don't apply anymore. Two of the three in this classification system are merely save selections that were coined catch phrases that people used for creditability. This is exactly like the term profly coined by Mike Vaughn.

Goaltending in my opinion is positional blocking or positional reacting and the lines between each are very blurred. The game is based on technical abilities as well as positional abilities. I can see where Pro Hybrid Goaltending came from.

I hope Zach does well.

Lord of the Cage

[WillyGrips13]

Whatever you call it; if you can learn these moves and incorporate them into your game you'll be in good shape. It seems that the most important parts of these teachings are the efficiency of movement. Getting from a to b in the best way. If you take nothing else from these lessons take the movement methods.

[Big Daddy D]

Originally Posted by #20

1 stand-up save in the whole clip. There were tons of bfly save there that could've been done standing up. Its a marketing gimmick... I'll pass

Again, depending on what you consider hybrid will determine your perspective.

honestly, a marketting gimmick would be to call it buttefly-pro because anytime a customer asks a question it has to do with butterfly. all day long I asnwer phone calls and emails asking whether a certain pad is a 'butterfly pad' or people tell me they only want to buy pads for butterfly, so calling his training hybrid may actually be counter productive by marketting standards.

Bauer printed on Vapor goal skates a feature called "butterfly asymetrical design" reffering to the low outside, high inside ankle support which is more annotomical for a person's foot/ankle. Can you honestly think of a more symmetrical looking animal than a butterfly? butterflies rely on symmetry for attracting mates, defense, camouflage etc so THAT is a marketting gimmick. They threw the word butterfly in there just to give the impression that somehow this was made for butterfly goalies.

I'm not going to let this thread be derailed on the symantics of the word hybrid or what one person or another person believes is hybrid goaltending. The point of this is to give people some information on an instructional tool that is made for today's style of play and some information on the person who produced it.

[The Wall33]

I liked the clip I saw, it shows 'modern' recovery techniques and some solid fundamental save techniques, stuff I teach every day with my goalies. It seems based, generally, on the 'Ian Clarke model' which I can appreciate since it has proven to be effective in my experience. I noted a couple of technical inconsistencies in the clip but by and large it looked good.

It's probably worth the $40 but I would not agree with the first sentence of this post that states "finally, someone has come out with a proper instructional video for today's goalie". There are other instructional videos out there for the 'modern goalie' so that lead-in seems a bit inflammatory and bound to cause controversy, IMO.

Whether or not he calls his business (or DVD) 'Prohybrid' should have little weight in the critique of the video.

Wellsie

[RichMan]

Big...my aim wasn't to derail this thread. I simply asked how it was marketed as "hybrid" when i saw lots of "b-flying"

You can retract my post if it satisfies the majority.

Sorry.

[madcow]

it combines reacting and blocking. I would assume that is why it is called hybrid. concept I have been practicing for a long time. Block when I can react when I have to, play different situations differently.

[The Wall33]

Originally Posted by madcow

it combines reacting and blocking. I would assume that is why it is called hybrid. concept I have been practicing for a long time. Block when I can, react when I have to, play different situations differently.

That is the ticket to success... End of story. Period. Call it anything you want, it's just goaltending 101.

[Goalieworld20]

based on this, i'd be a hybrid goalie haha. This is almost exactly what my goalie coach teaches, cept with a few minor differences. He calls it the "Reaction-Block" style, not hybrid lol.

and to him skate saves, padstacks, half-b-flies etc are the devil hahahaa

[dufferin]

Originally Posted by thewall345

Zach is sick! buy the dvd!!!

1st post.

What a success.

[RichMan]

So would Huet reflect this style of play? Thx to him, i finally understood and got the hang of the b-fly. But he also often has to dive or give a rainbow trapper and such here and there...which is my game...well, more so WHERE my game is heading. I also have an aggressive stick(poke checking, cutting passes, paddle downs, etc).

[Big Daddy D]

Originally Posted by stomp74

Wellsie,
Totally agree with you! When I read that statement I automatically pictured a salesperson promoting their in stock merchandise.

No one has ever brought another dvd to me that I have found as useful or consistent with today's goalie. I've seen a few, none have impressed me like this has

I think your statement about me promoting merchandise is a bit much. If I believe in a product and this it will benefit my customers I'm going to use the resources I have to promote it.

I sell a ton of Sportmask and Eddy masks. Know why? I believe they are the best made masks on the market and I feel good selling them to customers who trust me to keep their heads and their children's heads safe. There are several manufacturers or certain models I don't recommend because I don't believe they meet my standards.

Originally Posted by RichMan

So would Huet reflect this style of play? Thx to him, i finally understood and got the hang of the b-fly. But he also often has to dive or give a rainbow trapper and such here and there...which is my game...well, more so WHERE my game is heading. I also have an aggressive stick(poke checking, cutting passes, paddle downs, etc).

no one is trying to turn you into a Zach Sikich robot. coaching, drills and instruction are all preparation for game situations. I don't think the intention is to make everyone make the same save and same movements all the time. I can easily incorporate a lot of this into my game, but some will not simply because I will also still play my game. You cannot teach desperation saves, I think it is unrealistic to have a drill, where you fall on your belly and flail your arms hoping to catch a puck, you know what I mean? that's purely an in game spur of the moment save that comes from experience, knowing where a guy is likely to shoot, knowing the timing of the shot etc. the same way you might see a goalie on tv with a certain technique and mimic it, this video actually goes into what to do, how to do it and why you do it. I think where this will see the most benefit is with goalies who can't afford or have little or no access to good coaching where they are, or goalies who have got the fundamentals in place and want to put those to further use.

I sell a ton of Brian's and Vaughn gear, that's because I believe they make the best stuff, a customer comes in, the first thing out their mouth is, what do you think is the best pad, what plays best, has better durability etc and those two seem to do it better than anyone else.

I'm not going to get rich selling 2 dozen, or 20 dozen or 1200 dozen of these dvd's, bringing them on here is a way to expose people to it and hopefully people buy it and like it.