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killer · #1 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 06:24 PM

HNIC is broadcasting 81 NHL games in 29 days this season. They are all Saturdays, with the exception of Thursday, October 5th, and Sunday, February 4th.

- The Maple Leafs are the most prominent team, featured nationally in the early game 27 times (every Saturday), plus once regionally in the season opener for a total of 28 games. The only time they don't appear, February 4th, they have the day off.

- Buffalo appears more times in the nationally televised early game on Saturday night than Ottawa (4 times for Buffalo, 3 for Ottawa). Pittsburgh also has 3 games televised nationally in 7 Eastern time slot.

- Ottawa and Montreal play in 17 nationally televised games combined.

- Calgary has 21 Saturday games, plus the game that was televised Thursday, October 5th, for a total of 22 games played by the Flames on days that there is a HNIC broadcast. Of those 22, 17 games were televised (77.3%).

- Edmonton has 17 Saturday games, plus the game that was televised Thursday, October 5th, for a total of 18 games that could be broadcast at some point on HNIC. 15 games were televised (83.3%).

- Montreal has 27 Saturday games, plus the game that is scheduled to be televised Sunday, February 4th, for a total of 28 games that could be broadcast at some point on HNIC. 17 games were televised (60.7%).

- Ottawa has 25 Saturday games, plus the game that was televised Thursday, October 5th, for a total of 26 games that could be broadcast at some point on HNIC. 18 games were televised (69.2%).

- Toronto has 27 Saturday games, plus the game that was televised Thursday, October 5th, for a total of 28 games that could be broadcast at some point on HNIC. 28 games were televised (100%).

- Vancouver has 14 Saturday games, plus the game that was televised Thursday, October 5th, for a total of 15 games that could be broadcast at some point on HNIC. 14 games were televised (93.3%).

Nice to know that CBC decided to sacrifice 39% of Montreal's games and 30% or Ottawa's games so that we could all watch every Toronto game they could possibly show. At every opportunity CBC ran a Leafs game. The only day of those 29 that there isn't a Leafs game on HNIC is the February 4th "episode". And if they played that day, then we'd probably get to watch them then too. Is Toronto's fan base that large and widespread that there is a demand for 50% more Leaf games as Ottawa and Montreal combined? I'd like to see where they got that data from.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that noticed the Leafs were on a lot. I know I'm not bringing news to the table. But I didn't realize that they couldn't show more Leaf games without broadcasting mid-week as well. And I didn't realize what awful exposure Montreal and Ottawa were getting, especially when you consider that there are fewer games broadcast in the Ottawa and Montreal areas, 11 and 7 games, respectively, than the number of Toronto games that make it onto national TV before the halfway point in the season. You'd think that when your team is playing on Saturday night, your local CBC station would carry that game. You'd think wrong though, because half the time you're getting the Leafs.

kevinsane · #2 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 06:30 PM

It's been that way since I was a little kid. Back then it was actually worse, as there was only one HNIC game per week, and very little regional coverage of anyone else. You could watch the powerhouse, and highly skilled, Canadiens, in French, or watch the God-awful Ballard era Leafs. Obviously, this was before specialty channels, or cable for that matter.
So, Leaf fans, if you want to know where the hate comes from, here it is.

killer · #3 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 06:53 PM

Yeah, it's been that way forever. I just finally decided to have a look at what goes on with the schedule. And I can't speak for everyone in the west, but everyone I know that hates the Leafs cites the overexposure as at least one of the reasons.

the_canadian_beast_00 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 07:08 PM

BOOOOO HOOOOO. Maybe if the rest of the country caught up in population then they would get more of the tv time. Unless you want to love the Leafs like the rest of the world, quit crying, get off your wallet and go to the games in your market. Last time I checked, the CBC was tax payer funded....who's province and city pays the most taxes? The Leafs may not be winners, but they are still hands down more popular than any other team.

Emile

killer · #5 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by the_canadian_beast_00

but they are still hands down more popular than any other team.

Emile

You provide a source, I'll delete the thread.

Weirdo · #6 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the_canadian_beast_00

Last time I checked, the CBC was tax payer funded....who's province and city pays the most taxes? The Leafs may not be winners, but they are still hands down more popular than any other team.

The last time I checked the rest of the country pay the same taxes. The federal government didn't exactly give the rest of the country a tax break on the CBC. Don't forget, it's called the Canadian Broadcasting Coporation not the Toronto Broadcasting Coporation.

kevinsane · #7 (**permalink**) 10-21-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the_canadian_beast_00

The Leafs may not be winners, but.....
Emile

Now, THAT'S marketing!!!!!

merle720 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by killer

You provide a source, I'll delete the thread.

OK, not a source but Toronto is like the NY Yankees of hockey. They out sell is everything compaired to any NHL team. This is a fact I saw on the news a few months ago.

PS, I hate The Leafs.....GO HABS GO!!!!

killer · #9 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 06:45 AM

And by "provide a source", I don't mean go to Statistics Canada and post population numbers. I can do that. Find out where the hockey fans are. Find out how many Leaf fans there are in Ottawa that justifies not broadcasting the Sens-Devils game last night, at least in the Ottawa area. Or on January 20th, when CBC is broadcasting Toronto at Pittsburgh, while Ottawa is in Boston. Or March 24th. Or March 31st. Or April 7th.

And do the same for Montreal, and explain to me how people in Montreal would rather watch Toronto play on November 4th than their own Habs. Or November 18th. Or December 9th. Or December 23rd. Or December 30th. Or February 24th. Or March 3rd. Or March 10th. Or March 24th. Or March 31st.

Then show me that there are more Leaf fans than Sens or Habs fans west of Ontario, so that I can understand why the only time I can see Ottawa or Montreal play is when they happen to be playing Toronto during one of their 27 Saturday night games.

You do have that information, right? It must be out there somewhere. Call CBC, they must have done their research to come up with this schedule, so that all the lucky Leaf fans across the country can tune in to watch their favorite team.

efstratios1 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 06:46 AM

+1 for Emile.

Stop Whinin'! The Leafs are the team to like in Canada. Everyone else is useless in comparison. Especially the Whiny baby Vancouver fans that turn on their own team in times of despair.

the_canadian_beast_00 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Weirdo

The last time I checked the rest of the country pay the same taxes. The federal government didn't exactly give the rest of the country a tax break on the CBC. Don't forget, it's called the Canadian Broadcasting Coporation not the Toronto Broadcasting Coporation.

Possibly the softest argument ever. While residents of BC may pay the same number of dollars taxes on a per person basis, there are three times the number of residents in Ontario as their are in BC. Thats not a lucky guess, it is according to 2005 Statcan numbers. http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/demo02a.htm . Based on those numbers Ontario also acounts for just shy of 39% of the nation's entire population. With the numbers stated, there is no possible way you could believe that Ontario and more specifically, the GTA don't fund the lion's share of the CBC as well as piles of other federal services.

Hate the Leafs and Toronto all you want, but its not a fluke that the leafs are on the CBC more than anyone else. More of the population want to see it that way and have paid to see it that way. The numbers don't lie.

Emile

killer · #12 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by the_canadian_beast_00

Possibly the softest argument ever. While residents of BC may pay the same number of dollars taxes on a per person basis, there are three times the number of residents in Ontario as their are in BC. Thats not a lucky guess, it is according to 2005 Statcan numbers. http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/demo02a.htm . Based on those numbers Ontario also acounts for just shy of 39% of the nation's entire population. With the numbers stated, there is no possible way you could believe that Ontario and more specifically, the GTA don't fund the lion's share of the CBC as well as piles of other federal services.

Hate the Leafs and Toronto all you want, but its not a fluke that the leafs are on the CBC more than anyone else. More of the population want to see it that way and have paid to see it that way. The numbers don't lie.

Emile

How many tax payers are hockey fans? And how many are fans of one of the three Canadian teams in the east, over another? Like I say, I know how to pull census information from Statistics Canada. So you're not giving me information I can't find on my own. But they don't say how many tax payers want to see Toronto vs. how many want to see Ottawa or Montreal. Or how many tax payers outside of Ontario don't want to watch the Leafs. Maybe the entire 61% outside of Ontario wants to watch another team play once in a while. Try to prove that more of the population wants to see the Leafs, rather than quote census figures like you're accomplishing something.

efstratios1 · #13 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by killer

Or how many tax payers outside of Ontario don't want to watch the Leafs. Maybe the entire 61% outside of Ontario wants to watch another team play once in a while. Try to prove that more of the population wants to see the Leafs, rather than quote census figures like you're accomplishing something.

Try to prove that the "consensus" wants to see the other teams you have mentioned.

This argument will not go your way, no matter how much you try to twist and turn it.

There's a reason that things are the way they are. It's not a random conspiracy as you Western "canuckians" believe it to be.

Ahhhh! · #14 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 07:23 AM

...10 CHAR...

goalieboy29 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-22-2006, 07:51 AM

Is it just me or does anyone else wish Harry Neale and Bob Cole would just die already? Half the time they have no clue what is actually happening in the game. The other half of the time they are yapping about how they had to wear onions on their belts as that was the style in the 30's. I HATE the sound of thier voices, they are so old school "announcer". Can't CBC give someone else a chance or are these jobs a lifetime deal? Seriously, listen to other broadcasts and compare announcers for yourself. Then tell me I'm nuts...

I hate Bob Cole and Harry Neale!!!!!

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