2007-08 Stanley Cup Finals: Red Wings vs. Penguins

[korky15]

Originally Posted by Spidey

You want to know why the Joe is empty?


Real fans can't affoard tickets! I make a comfortable living but this would take a big chunk out of my savings just to see one game!

On top of that a lot of these lower bowl seats are reserved for folks up in suites. Suites owned by companies trying to smooze clients...

Thats cheap compared to san jose regular season tickets. Its absurd what the sharks ownership group charges with the subpar team they fielding

[korky15]

Pen's in 6 Osgood will be exposed for the average goalie that he is

[colavs454]

Wings in Five. The Penguins aren't facing some Eastern Conference team anymore. They are facing the best team in the superior Western Conference. In the wes, if you dive & do the rest of that bull, you get called on it by the opposing team. As in, you got someone like Kris Draper on your back. And the sissy instigator who does nothing but cheap shot but won't back it up also gets called out. & the big two of Crosby & Malkin are just the East's version of Datsyuk & Zetterberg, so the talented skill players even out in my opinion. Also Ozzy>MAF. Having the future Norris Trophy winner also helps shut down the "2 Hockey Gods"

The only even matchup I see in this series is the battle of the 40 year olds (Roberts & Chelios assuming they both play).


& there is only one reason why I'm happy that then Pens are in the Finals; None of that stupid losing to get the best incoming player nonsense

[korky15]

Originally Posted by colavs454

Wings in Five. The Penguins aren't facing some Eastern Conference team anymore. They are facing the best team in the superior Western Conference. In the wes, if you dive & do the rest of that bull, you get called on it by the opposing team. As in, you got someone like Kris Draper on your back. And the sissy instigator who does nothing but cheap shot but won't back it up also gets called out. & the big two of Crosby & Malkin are just the East's version of Datsyuk & Zetterberg, so the talented skill players even out in my opinion. Also Ozzy>MAF. Having the future Norris Trophy winner also helps shut down the "2 Hockey Gods"

The only even matchup I see in this series is the battle of the 40 year olds (Roberts & Chelios assuming they both play).


& there is only one reason why I'm happy that then Pens are in the Finals; None of that stupid losing to get the best incoming player nonsense

Your forgetting Hossa thats a big thing to forget, no way ozzy or maf. Ozzie hasnt had to do anything except to stay square to the shooter from above the circles

[colavs454]

Originally Posted by korky15

Your forgetting Hossa thats a big thing to forget, no way ozzy or maf. Ozzie hasnt had to do anything except to stay square to the shooter from above the circles

Wings throw out Franzen to counter Hossa.
And that's a good thing for Ozzy then. The less he has to do, the less amount of goals he is bound to let up. I'd also take Ozzy because of his Stanley Cup experience. whether he was along for the ride or not, he took the wings there once playoffs started

[korky15]

Originally Posted by colavs454

Wings throw out Franzen to counter Hossa.
And that's a good thing for Ozzy then. The less he has to do, the less amount of goals he is bound to let up. I'd also take Ozzy because of his Stanley Cup experience. whether he was along for the ride or not, he took the wings there once playoffs started

Franzen is still out with a concussion and your assuming he is going to score at the same pace he was before getting knocked out. Him scoring the way he has is out of charcter to assume it will resume is a bit careless.

Secondly Ozzies stanley cup experience when he has been counted on to win he has lost. The only time he has won is when he has had to perform the duties of a slightly more mobile shooter tutor.

If the Wings win and it's because of how well Osgood played i'll be one of the first to say i was wrong, but rest assured if they lose it will most likely be to poor goaltending.

[Eidolon]

Originally Posted by Spidey

You want to know why the Joe is empty?


Real fans can't affoard tickets! I make a comfortable living but this would take a big chunk out of my savings just to see one game!

On top of that a lot of these lower bowl seats are reserved for folks up in suites. Suites owned by companies trying to smooze clients...

That's all well and good, but when fans of teams like Nashville or Florida or Carolina or New Jersey point out high ticket prices or too much corporate smoozing as reasons for watching at home, RW fans start thumping their collective chests and spouting 'Hockeytown' dribble at the top of their lungs? Why is the economy, a horrible downtown area, and/or a sports dollar stretched thin due to a multitude of entertainment opportunites (Tigers, Pistons, etc.) a viable excuse for the downturn in the Motor City, but nowhere else in the league? Why do Detroit fans claim supremecy for 'Hockeytown' when it's obvious they suffer from the same issues as every other US market?

The fact is, savvy sports fans, who make a decent living can't afford NHL regular season tickets, much less playoff tickets without taking a serious hit to the nest egg. And as shown by the Detroit example, it has little to nothing to do with the team's performance.

RW in 6. (I just threw up in my mouth a little). Honestly, I'd root for the Pens if they could win it all, but Crosby could somehow be excluded. He's a polarizing figure around these parts, but I'm just sick of hearing about him from both sides. The Pens winning the Cup would result in 4 SOLID MONTHS of proclaiming him the greatest thing since a carpenter from Galilea walked on water...

[Moore00]

Originally Posted by Eidolon

That's all well and good, but when fans of teams like Nashville or Florida or Carolina or New Jersey point out high ticket prices or too much corporate smoozing as reasons for watching at home, RW fans start thumping their collective chests and spouting 'Hockeytown' dribble at the top of their lungs? Why is the economy, a horrible downtown area, and/or a sports dollar stretched thin due to a multitude of entertainment opportunites (Tigers, Pistons, etc.) a viable excuse for the downturn in the Motor City, but nowhere else in the league? Why do Detroit fans claim supremecy for 'Hockeytown' when it's obvious they suffer from the same issues as every other US market?

The fact is, savvy sports fans, who make a decent living can't afford NHL regular season tickets, much less playoff tickets without taking a serious hit to the nest egg. And as shown by the Detroit example, it has little to nothing to do with the team's performance.

RW in 6. (I just threw up in my mouth a little). Honestly, I'd root for the Pens if they could win it all, but Crosby could somehow be excluded. He's a polarizing figure around these parts, but I'm just sick of hearing about him from both sides. The Pens winning the Cup would result in 4 SOLID MONTHS of proclaiming him the greatest thing since a carpenter from Galilea walked on water...

The fact that the TV ratings in Hockeytown as still as good as they are (if not better than before, plus the ratings for stations like VS are only half what the actual are, as Detroit and the east side gets CBC) shows that the prices really are having an effect. Hockeytown is still Hockeytown, it just is unemployed Hockeytown right now. The Wings are still #1.

[GoalieAtWork]

Wings sweep. In 5 at most.

I like the Pens, and am tempted to root against the Wings because I loathe Hasek... but with Ozzy being the salvation of the Wings these playoffs after Hasek dropped the ball, I think it would piss Hasek off even MORE if the Wings win with Ozzy than if the Wings lose the finals.

So given that a Wings win on Ozzy's goaltending is the worst thing that can happen to Hasek, I think I'll root for that.

I never said it was a mature outlook.

[Devilman]

Originally Posted by Eidolon

RW in 6. (I just threw up in my mouth a little). Honestly, I'd root for the Pens if they could win it all, but Crosby could somehow be excluded. He's a polarizing figure around these parts, but I'm just sick of hearing about him from both sides. The Pens winning the Cup would result in 4 SOLID MONTHS of proclaiming him the greatest thing since a carpenter from Galilea walked on water...

Crosby is definitly one of the top five players in the league, but he not the number 1 player in the league. You have too much talent out there for one guy to be the overall best. On any given night players like Zetterburg, Franzen, Malkin, Hossa, Datsyuk, heck I'll even say Staal, can steal the game while Crosby could (difficult to do) get shut out on the points board. Crosby has a long way to go in his career before having proclamation as being an Hockey God

I will say Wings in 6. Pens will make it an competitive final and I think Hossa will stand out large, but the Wings are just too good all around.

[ThePM]

Originally Posted by Devilman

. Crosby has a long way to go in his career before having proclamation as being an Hockey God

Tell that to every news caster and sports writer. They've all got a fettish for the kid

[dannyho1]

I am sorry colavs454, but I have been a wings fan for 40 years and I have seen the wings, so called possesion offense = many bad goals, turnovers, and exciting play (from the other TEAM). This should be the most exciting series of the 2008 playoffs, even if my beloved WINGS lose to a GREAT OFFENSIVE team like the Penguins (that is if you like GOALS and GREAT SAVES).

[colavs454]

Originally Posted by dannyho1

I am sorry colavs454, but I have been a wings fan for 40 years and I have seen the wings, so called possesion offense = many bad goals, turnovers, and exciting play (from the other TEAM). This should be the most exciting series of the 2008 playoffs, even if my beloved WINGS lose to a GREAT OFFENSIVE team like the Penguins (that is if you like GOALS and GREAT SAVES).

If it's from the Penguins.....no. I don't believe Fleury is anything other than a goalie that relies too much on his athleticism instead of being technically sound, I think Crosby is pretty overrated (I think the league set him up to do great), & I hate how there is no more NHL. It's Sidney Crosby & those 600 other guys with missing teeth. & with what the wings have done to every team in the West that i think could've beat The Pens (i've seen Columbus crush that team with Crosby. If they can do it, I'm sure Clagary could've), They can do it to the Penguins

[korky15]

You havent been following the playoffs at all have you? Fleury is much improved in that area of his game. His rebound control has also improved, its wait and see until sat at this point.

I see Osgood with another all star game like performance in his future

[5hahv1r1]

Osgood's future? That should last another year, maybe 5 but that's just pushing it. He's a great goaltender (the Osgood-show that was put on in Dallas ) but he's getting old along with the rest of the Wings. They need to seriously just bomb the next season if they win a Cup here. They're going to need to rebuild A LOT, because at least a good half of their team is going to retire at once, lol.