NHL with better attendence than NBA

[spidergoalie]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Both sets of numbers are completely made up. They mean nothing either way.

I think though that the point is how the NHL is doing relative to the NBA. If both leagues are lying, could we still get an idea about the comparison?
Certainly TV ratings are not so similar I would imagine....on either side of the border.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by spidergoalie

I think though that the point is how the NHL is doing relative to the NBA. If both leagues are lying, could we still get an idea about the comparison?

That's what I mean, I don't believe there is any useful information in those figures, specifically because they are fake. There's nothing that can tell you who is lying more than the other, or if they are both lying the same, etc. All you really know is they're both liars.

Certainly TV ratings are not so similar I would imagine....on either side of the border.

The TV ratings tell you a lot more. On both sides of the border.

[Arctother]

Originally Posted by Bryan

The TV ratings tell you a lot more. On both sides of the border.

Um, well, no. Apples to Apples, yes - but the games in the US on Versus are simply not as available as the games on ESPN.

And the weekend games on NBC are on the weekend - so if we were talking weekend game vs weekend game fine.

But weeknight games, basketball benefits from all those casual fans who get home, crack a brew, and might watch a hockey game if it was on, but it is not so they watch the basketball game.

Yes, I know in some regions, the local channel (Comcast Sportsnet etc) will show hockey on weeknights. But not in much of the USA, including some major media markets - Seattle for one. So, if you do not get Versus....

-Arc

[tgfoo]

Originally Posted by Arctother

Um, well, no. Apples to Apples, yes - but the games in the US on Versus are simply not as available as the games on ESPN.

And the weekend games on NBC are on the weekend - so if we were talking weekend game vs weekend game fine.

But weeknight games, basketball benefits from all those casual fans who get home, crack a brew, and might watch a hockey game if it was on, but it is not so they watch the basketball game.

Yes, I know in some regions, the local channel (Comcast Sportsnet etc) will show hockey on weeknights. But not in much of the USA, including some major media markets - Seattle for one. So, if you do not get Versus....

-Arc

That's part of the reason so many writers on down on the NHL. Yes, Versus does a very good job covering the NHL. However, they're no ESPN. People don't just randomly tune into Versus and say "I'm bored, I wonder what Versus is showing right now." The fact is, if the NHL wants to be in the same category as the NBA and MLB in the U.S. they need the support of the casual sports fan. I still think the NHL needs to be on ESPN if they want to work their way back into the mainstream American sports. At least they need to be talked about on a regular basis (on Sports Center and their talk shows) for something other than a major event.

[klemmer35]

Originally Posted by bc30

The only thing that mystifies me is how the average reporter/media type constantly refers to the most recent work stoppage as a "strike".

When I read any story calling it a strike, the writer loses all credibility in my book. It just proves they writer has no connection to the game, no matter what the slant of the story.

If the story was about any other business, you know they'd make damn sure to know if it was a strike or a lockout.

Thank you! I was wondering if someone would bring up this 'little" distinction.

[colavs454]

Originally Posted by L7spider

All sports fudge the attendance numbers. Being in South Florida I know for sure that the Marlins and Heat definately don't have the attendance they claim.

I remember reading somewhere that at one point during one of the Heat's miserable losing streaks, they only drew 5,000 people to a game..Reminds me of St. Louis last year in a game they played the Jackets. Normally is "Lets Go Blues!!!". Then it was "..............."