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RyJ Maduro · #31 (**permalink**) 11-07-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fleuryrocks29

Also that music is not even anything close to emo, it was quite awesome, it was like NIN meets some German band. Rammstein maybe but too soft for Rammstein.

Obviously the asshat with a death-fetish liked that song too.

Timberwoof · #32 (**permalink**) 11-07-2007, 08:17 PM

Somehow I can't believe that the music kids are listening to causes this. People are already a little nuts, and it comes out in the music.

If it were only that simple, we could just ban certain kinds of music, videos, games, and literature, and be done with it. But for some reason I think that wouldn't work.

ThePM · #33 (**permalink**) 11-07-2007, 08:19 PM

Exactly timber. Let's go back to before the 1900's... before everything that 'causes' violence in teens existed. I'd love to see stats on these sort of events compared to now. None exist, of course, but it would be interesting.

Threeleggedyoyo · #34 (**permalink**) 11-07-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Timberwoof

Somehow I can't believe that the music kids are listening to causes this. People are already a little nuts, and it comes out in the music.

If it were only that simple, we could just ban certain kinds of music, videos, games, and literature, and be done with it. But for some reason I think that wouldn't work.

I'm gonna have to agree with this.

I think those things are activities these sort of people will seek out, but if they didn't exist I'm not convinced they wouldn't find other outlets and end up doing the same thing.

If any one single media element encourages these kinds of shootings, I'd say it's the news coverage it gets. They see it as some kind of fame or message they can send to the world, and sadly, they're right.

The other thing I'd blame (if we've really got to deflect blame from murderous maniacs, which we don't) is the pressure our young people are under in modern society. I don't know how long this trend has been going on or what kind of acceleration it's had, but I think if you ask other members of the rising generation they'll report the same thing. There is so much emphasis put on education and status and bureaucracy, and so much control exercised over our youth in these areas in often irrational ways, and so few alternatives in which a young person can seek a practical and utilitarian way of life, it's possible to begin to feel like a doomed prisoner. Get enough anger built up over this and you can see why people lash out.

I believe a similar mentality is involved in suicide bombers and terrorists. In fact, a middle-eastern news correspondent reported that he felt there were similarities between a video made by the killer in a shooting here in the US in comparison to mayrterdom videos made by those kinds of extremists.

Again, though, murderers are murderers and deserve no sympathy or justification (except maybe legitimate insanity, which doesn't qualify as murder anyway).

~Brent

Sydney_Goalie · #35 (**permalink**) 11-07-2007, 11:52 PM

Terrible to hear this is. Hard to believe also that Finland has the 3rd highest gun/per person ratio in the world behind Yemen and the US.

RyJ Maduro · #36 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePM

Exactly timber. Let's go back to before the 1900's... before everything that 'causes' violence in teens existed. I'd love to see stats on these sort of events compared to now. None exist, of course, but it would be interesting.

Strong families, good values, organized religion, a decent society...

goaliekid3 · #37 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Timberwoof

Aww, quit playing the victim here. How about you express shock and dismay and condolences to the families of those who were killed, instead of whining about who gets blamed for it.

Just b/c I don't choose to morn the loss of a human life on this BB doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for the famillies.

All I am saying that the LIbs in the media will some how spin this in a way where it some how the USA fault. It's not whinning, it is having pide in MY COUNTRY and I get pissed off when anyone or any country tried to put the USA down or it's people.

And if someone in that school whould have had gun this Kid wouldn't have killed so many people, there would have been one dead.......

Thumper · #38 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by goaliekid3

All I am saying that the LIbs in the media will some how spin this in a way where it some how the USA fault.

Have you seen this yet ?

Stop talking out your ass...................

rbrownie · #39 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by goaliekid3

Just b/c I don't choose to morn the loss of a human life on this BB doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for the famillies.

All I am saying that the LIbs in the media will some how spin this in a way where it some how the USA fault. It's not whinning, it is having pide in MY COUNTRY and I get pissed off when anyone or any country tried to put the USA down or it's people.

And if someone in that school whould have had gun this Kid wouldn't have killed so many people, there would have been one dead.......

Good luck with that on this forum........

goaliekid3 · #40 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Have you seen this yet ?

Stop talking out your ass...................

So having pride in my country is now talking out my ass ?

Thumper · #41 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goaliekid3

So having pride in my country is now talking out my ass ?

Read the quote above my previous post.

It's a virulent virus, ain't it..................????????

goaliekid3 · #42 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Read the quote above my previous post.

It's a virulent virus, ain't it..................????????

Yes yes it is, so we need more guns laws b/c more guns laws mean less people with guns on the street right ?

Thumper · #43 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by goaliekid3

Yes yes it is, so we need more guns laws b/c more guns laws mean less people with guns on the street right ?

Instead of creating issues that were not in my 5 word post, why don't you respond to the issue that was ?

Show us all where the Liberal Media has spun this to blame the US...........

punisher · #44 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Instead of creating issues that were not in my 5 word post, why don't you respond to the issue that was ?

Show us all where the Liberal Media has spun this to blame the US...........

i blame AMERICA for this.

and i also blame them for the fact that Belgium still hasn't got a government after 152 days after the voting.

pun.

goaliekid3 · #45 (**permalink**) 11-08-2007, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

Instead of creating issues that were not in my 5 word post, why don't you respond to the issue that was ?

Show us all where the Liberal Media has spun this to blame the US...........

Well, Mr Thumper if you would go back and read my posts, you will see that I said that the liberal Media WILL in a future tense use this against the USA and make feel bad for being Americans. I did not say it happened yet, but mark my words it will( in the future)

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