Liberal in AZ. admits he was wrong!

[azdave]

Well guys you know I have been anti Bush since day 1 of his presidency and when I am proven wrong I will be the first to admit it. Recently I posted that Bush was GIVING $500 million to the Mexican government for drug enforcement, more police and helicopters. I was wrong, sorry. It is not $500 million but $1.4 billion. The initiative is dubbed Merida. Which I believe when you translate it means we the American taxpayers are taking it in the shorts. Again I should have known better when Bush was giving $500 million away that in reality it would turn out to be much much more. I believe there is a positive side to all of this as I doubt that many Republicans can be backing this insane plan to piss away 1.4 billion but as I stated above I have been wrong before.

[rbrownie]

I guess he should take a hint from the Democratic congress and just do nothing...

No chance of screwing up then.......

[azdave]

Again I believe you are giving too much credit to the Congress. The Dems do not hold an overwhelming majority so until 08 there is very little they can get done. They cannot override a veto because the sheep in the Republican party still follow W wherever he leads them. Hopefully not into another Middle Eastern conflict with Iran. Seems this is where Georgie and Dickie want to go. With chaos in the M.E., the economy here in the ****ter and all the other problems I am sure Georgie wants to go out with a bang. But I am glad to see you think giving Mexico helicopters and money is a good way to battle the drug crisis. I do understand though because with those helicopters it will save fuel, time and eliminate conflicts on our border by allowing those drug smugglers most better access to the USA. Also lets tip our hat to the Bush adm. for allowing all those Mexican trucks into the US as well. That my friend is border control at its best

I think the response by Rbrownie proves my point.

[Foxton]

Azdave the problem with the democratic congress is that they don't really want to do anything. What they want is to make W and the other republicans appear as the bad guys because "Oh he'll just veto it" or "Well they refuse to vote for it" is an easy excuse to actually doing there job and it makes them appear better in the eyes of voters. And really this close to a presidential election they are trying as hard as possible to make the Republicans appear as monsters. Might as well hit em early and longer.

[sloth2946]

Originally Posted by rbrownie

I guess he should take a hint from the Democratic congress and just do nothing...

No chance of screwing up then.......

If given the choice between doing nothing and doing the wrong thing every time....I'll take nothing for $1000 Alex.

[soulpatch]

Originally Posted by azdave

Again I believe you are giving too much credit to the Congress. The Dems do not hold an overwhelming majority so until 08 there is very little they can get done. They cannot override a veto because the sheep in the Republican party still follow W wherever he leads them. Hopefully not into another Middle Eastern conflict with Iran. Seems this is where Georgie and Dickie want to go. With chaos in the M.E., the economy here in the ****ter and all the other problems I am sure Georgie wants to go out with a bang. But I am glad to see you think giving Mexico helicopters and money is a good way to battle the drug crisis. I do understand though because with those helicopters it will save fuel, time and eliminate conflicts on our border by allowing those drug smugglers most better access to the USA. Also lets tip our hat to the Bush adm. for allowing all those Mexican trucks into the US as well. That my friend is border control at its best

I think the response by Rbrownie proves my point.

I assume your override veto speaks of his veto of the expanded healthcare plan. Thank God they dont have the power to override that. It is a dumb plan.

Though I will agree with you that the money should not have been given to Mexico...


Why would they not allow the Mexican trucks into the US? We allow Canadian trucks into the US to transport their goods. Why should Mexico not have the same rights?

[azdave]

Lets see, it has been proven that the Mexican trucks are unsafe. That is number 1. Secondly if I am not mistaken the majority of drugs entering this country are coming from Mexico. If they can hide them in cars and get through the border how much easier would it be to find all the hiding spots in an 18 wheeler?

As far as the Congress doing nothing I think you are expecting miracles in the short time (10 months) since they took over control. Bush has had nearly 7 years and prior to 9-11 he basically took vacations. OOps he leads in vacation time.

[rbrownie]

Originally Posted by azdave

Lets see, it has been proven that the Mexican trucks are unsafe. That is number 1. Secondly if I am not mistaken the majority of drugs entering this country are coming from Mexico. If they can hide them in cars and get through the border how much easier would it be to find all the hiding spots in an 18 wheeler?

As far as the Congress doing nothing I think you are expecting miracles in the short time (10 months) since they took over control. Bush has had nearly 7 years and prior to 9-11 he basically took vacations. OOps he leads in vacation time.

Blah, blah, blah..

The dems dont have enough time...WAaaaa WAaaaa WAaaa

They trying to do nothing but kill this country and push it into a socialist society.

Maybe the dems are to busy taking bribes from oil companies.....

[RyJ Maduro]

This idea is totally retarted, and I don't support it in the least. Waste of money. On Bush's "bad idea" policies, this ranks somewhere between the "temporary guest worker" idea, and giving any money to Palestine, ever.

We need to be saving this cash for Iran.

[hroark2112]

Originally Posted by soulpatch

Why would they not allow the Mexican trucks into the US? We allow Canadian trucks into the US to transport their goods. Why should Mexico not have the same rights?

To my knowledge there has never been a truckload of Canadians caught crossing the border illegaly. A truckload of Mexicans would just stay and forge some SSNs at a construction site.

Canadians just go home. We're cool with Canadians

[soulpatch]

Then border control should do their job at the crossing to check the trucks. Spend some of the money on border control then. The point is still though that they should have the same right to transfer their goods as Canada. Canada imports some weed into our country as well. (though I am all for decrimilizing weed)

RJ - You better hope we don't go to Iran. No need currently and it would sink the US into a deep recession unless the rest of the world was on our side as well.......

[leaferguy]

If I start importing drugs, can I get money for my college loans?

[soulpatch]

Originally Posted by leaferguy

If I start importing drugs, can I get money for my college loans?

You go to Drexel. There are already enough drugs around.......

[Quart of Beer]

Originally Posted by hroark2112

To my knowledge there has never been a truckload of Canadians caught crossing the border illegaly. A truckload of Mexicans would just stay and forge some SSNs at a construction site.

Canadians just go home. We're cool with Canadians

That means the secret insidious creeping Canadian virus is working....soon the loonie will conquer the dollar, youse 'mericans will be saying eh! and humming the theme to hockey night in Canada and all Nascar events will serve Labatt's and Molson as it's official beer. Throw in the evil menacing B.C. bud and Don 'Mr. Law and Order' Cherry on the Republican presidential ticket and our takeover will be complete. Hide your cheese and gas pumps...we're coming!

[azdave]

7 years vs. 10 months. Yep they have had plenty of time. The one thing that haven't had time to do is to fix all the destruction the Bush adm. has wrecked upon this country. That my friend will take a true leader at least 4 years to fix. When 08 comes and we elect a person with a brain to run this country either Republican or Democrat you will see some serious change. Until then we have to deal with the uh and duhs and pissing money away. I wonder if his blind trust invests in the company that makes and sells those helicopters


Going into a recession?? Hell we are already there. No one has the balls to come out and say it. Foreclosures, job loss, earnings down, etc: the market has been acting as if we are at the start of a recession. Thanks to George and his boys we have pissed away a surplus, piled up a huge debt, started a war that has no end in sight but it seems to some Republicans that sending 1.4 billion to Mexico is a good idea because No hope for those folks.