
06-25-2008, 08:46 AM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Timberwoof
I guess we can all wallow in an orgy of binary thinking now. 
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The only binary thinking I do is when I am subnetting. The rest my mental capacity is pretty well all over the spectrum.
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06-25-2008, 08:48 AM
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walking PSU advertisement
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Philly PA
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Originally Posted by Timberwoof
I guess we can all wallow in an orgy of binary thinking now. 
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What you do on your own time is your business. The rest of us like to think with a head on our shoulders........You however have shown that your head can no longer think clearly showed so far up your ass
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06-25-2008, 09:13 AM
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Fearlessly Moderate!
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Corona, CA USA
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Though I support the death penalty as a valid punishment for murderers, I think it would clearly increase the risk of rapists (child or adult) deciding it is safer to murder their victim rather than leave a witness. Knowing that a rapist has twisted thinking to start with, it is not a big stretch to think that protecting themselves after the fact by killing their victim might not occur. It just puts the victim in more danger.
Anyone arguing against prison terms based on the expense is totally off base. At what dollar value do you decide it is better to execute a prisoner? Twenty years for embezzlement costs just as much to the taxpayers and twenty years for rape. Do we say any crime that justifies more than twenty years should be converted to the death penalty because we want our justice, but we don’t want to pay for it? A quick cheap execution is always cheaper than a prison term.
In England in 1637, a boy was hanged for stealing golf balls. Harsh, yes, but balls were costly.
As a nation, we have to decide on criminal penalties that make sense, fit the crime, and are constitutional. If we have to find ways to make our justice system more cost effective, then fine, let’s streamline the system and make it more affordable. But whether someone lives or dies shouldn’t be based on either their ability to pay before conviction, or our willingness to foot the bill afterwards.
Last edited by Steve L : 06-25-2008 at 09:30 AM.
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06-25-2008, 09:15 AM
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Dave's not here
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Michigan
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[quote=cajungoalie;1240369]It doesn't matter, Louisianians take things into their own hand down here...
google Leon Gary Plauche....
I remember seeing that video on CNN when it happened. If memory serves me correct he was at the phone booths pretending to be on the phone and when the guy walked by he turned around and gave him a lobotomy. Pretty cool video.
eis
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06-25-2008, 09:24 AM
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un-Karl Farbman-like
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashua, NH
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Originally Posted by sloth2946
The only binary thinking I do is when I am subnetting...
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NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT!
I bet you have one of those "There's No Place Like 127.0.0.1" t-shirts, too...
 
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06-25-2008, 09:27 AM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by stl_tl
NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT!
I bet you have one of those "There's No Place Like 127.0.0.1" t-shirts, too...
 
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I may work in a nerdy profession but I can assure you that I am far from that type of nerd.
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06-25-2008, 09:27 AM
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pelle was king!
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Caged in Louisiana
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[quote=Eis;1240387]
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Originally Posted by cajungoalie
It doesn't matter, Louisianians take things into their own hand down here...
google Leon Gary Plauche....
I remember seeing that video on CNN when it happened. If memory serves me correct he was at the phone booths pretending to be on the phone and when the guy walked by he turned around and gave him a lobotomy. Pretty cool video.
eis
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Yes, exactly. You can also see it in Bowling for Columbine.
The man was/is revered as a hero in these parts, rumor has it that the cops who "arrested/detained" him treatred him like royalty in the clink as he awaited trial.
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06-25-2008, 09:38 AM
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un-Karl Farbman-like
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Nashua, NH
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Originally Posted by sloth2946
I may work in a nerdy profession but I can assure you that I am far from that type of nerd.
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I hope you saw the "   " after my post...
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06-25-2008, 09:46 AM
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"Where are you Joe?"
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: In your face!
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Originally Posted by sloth2946
I may work in a nerdy profession but I can assure you that I am far from that type of nerd.
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What a typicly nerd phrase
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06-25-2008, 10:13 AM
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Everything in moderation.
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Dawson Creek, BC.
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Sloth's middle names are Lewis and Gilbert.
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Just a game.
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06-25-2008, 11:17 AM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by kevinsane
Sloth's middle names are Lewis and Gilbert.
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How many times can you be wrong???
It's Dudley Dawson.
PS: I did see the  I just wanted to make a point that while I work in a nerdy profession, I am a bit of an anomaly and outcast as I have other pursuits in life other than 1's and 0's, WoW and geeky ****. People see me come in all battered and bruised from hockey and other things and are like WTF is with this guy??? He's supposed to be a computer geek. Plus I too have a personality and can carry a conversation other than computer lingo.
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06-25-2008, 01:49 PM
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skinny guy in wolf suit
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
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Originally Posted by soulpatch
What you do on your own time is your business. The rest of us like to think with a head on our shoulders........You however have shown that your head can no longer think clearly showed so far up your ass
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In other words, the only kinds of logic you're capable of comprehending are to either execute the mofo or get all mealymouthed and blame society for all his heartache and let him go. You think there is no intermediate position; no other possibility such as, "He's a criminal incapable of living in society without endangering others, but this society is not barbaric, so instead of executing him, we'll keep him in prison forever so he can contemplate his actions."
And you think I've got my head shoved up my ass.  It's one thing to have unpopular political opinions. It's another to demonstrate clearly to everyone on the BBS that you're incapable of shades of meaning or subtle thought.
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06-25-2008, 02:30 PM
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Just get us to a shootout
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Phx AZ
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Originally Posted by sloth2946
How many times can you be wrong???
It's Dudley Dawson.
PS: I did see the  I just wanted to make a point that while I work in a nerdy profession, I am a bit of an anomaly and outcast as I have other pursuits in life other than 1's and 0's, WoW and geeky ****. People see me come in all battered and bruised from hockey and other things and are like WTF is with this guy??? He's supposed to be a computer geek. Plus I too have a personality and can carry a conversation other than computer lingo.
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That immediately made me think of Ed Norton in "Fight Club"!  
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06-26-2008, 07:44 AM
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walking PSU advertisement
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Philly PA
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Originally Posted by Timberwoof
In other words, the only kinds of logic you're capable of comprehending are to either execute the mofo or get all mealymouthed and blame society for all his heartache and let him go. You think there is no intermediate position; no other possibility such as, "He's a criminal incapable of living in society without endangering others, but this society is not barbaric, so instead of executing him, we'll keep him in prison forever so he can contemplate his actions."
And you think I've got my head shoved up my ass.  It's one thing to have unpopular political opinions. It's another to demonstrate clearly to everyone on the BBS that you're incapable of shades of meaning or subtle thought.
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Now what I am incapable of is, turning the cheek and blaming society like you, oh, so ofton do. I see plently shades of grey. I am pro death penalty for murder, raping small children, and a few other things.
Contemplate his actions. If that person is so screwed up that they did something like this there is no contemplating. There is no reconciliation. Society does not neccessarily need to be barbaric to execute one endangering its stock. Putting someone in jail to live off of us is no better then them being amongst us. I would much rather the funds go to the execution of them. I would be fine with jail if say they were sent to a specific warp where the other inmates took it into their own hands.
I have gone back and forth with many others on here including Azdave who I am against in most areas and we can come to terms at times. You however have no shades. it is your way or the moral wrongway.
So you can consider me as having my head up my own ass all you want. Either way I dont think I could ever shove it up as far as you to see the other plane you live on......
Last edited by soulpatch : 06-26-2008 at 08:36 AM.
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06-26-2008, 08:12 AM
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Nostraslothus
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Long Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberwoof
In other words, the only kinds of logic you're capable of comprehending are to either execute the mofo or get all mealymouthed and blame society for all his heartache and let him go. You think there is no intermediate position; no other possibility such as, "He's a criminal incapable of living in society without endangering others, but this society is not barbaric, so instead of executing him, we'll keep him in prison forever so he can contemplate his actions."
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Sorry, but people who rape children don't sit around and contemplate what they did. They don't seem to care, which is why when and if they are ever released they have this highest rate of recidivism amongst all criminals.
Having him sit in prison takes up resources that can and should be applied elsewhere.
I really think you need to delve into the psychology of these people a bit more to understand that they are as base as humans ever get. They are simply predators, nothing more nothing less. As soon as you know that, you will understand that dispatching of them as quickly as possible is the only choice we have as a society.
Last edited by sloth2946 : 06-26-2008 at 08:14 AM.
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