PoPe OK with Aliens (sorta)

[Stryker908]

Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens - The Vatican - MSNBC.com

Just so long as they keep those hethen women off the alter!

[goalerjones]

this thread is just begging for some good photoshop...

[Stryker908]

Originally Posted by goalerjones

this thread is just begging for some good photoshop...

Mmmm Good photoshop!

[goalerjones]

Originally Posted by Stryker908

Mmmm Good photoshop!

nice...I'm not going to spend $600 just so I can do a mock-up of the pope and some aliens...now if I had it already that would be a different story.

[biguglygoalie]

im ok with aliens too...as long as they look like natasha henstridge in species!!

[Aaron]

According to God's word :


Genesis 1:27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

I myself cannot see God making aliens superior to man. He created us in His image. He would not create something that represents Him that is less than something else.

Perhaps there are other forms of life in the universe, but I for one would never believe they are superior to man.

[HermanTheGoalie]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Perhaps there are other forms of life in the universe, but I for one would never believe they are superior to man.

I only postulate to play devils advocate as I feel we're in the same boat, but, and running the risk of stealing elite's philosophical monopoly, you would have to define "superior" before making a statement about it. What if some crazy blob vanquished all the nourishment on his or her planet, but was still able to maintain it in some way where it garnishes forever lasting and delicious food?

I have a problem with aliens having rational thinking ability, I don't think that's out there. But I would like to meet one in a civil environment.

[Aaron]

Superior as in, able to rationalize and think and as we humans do, or sometimes don't

I totally get what you're saying though.

[Swedish goalie]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Perhaps there are other forms of life in the universe, but I for one would never believe they are superior to man.

What! Why?

because it says so in the bible Even the Vatican says that you shouldnt take the bible litterly(s) For gods sake they are going to have a party on Darwins 200 birthday.

[Timberwoof]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I myself cannot see God making aliens superior to man. He created us in His image. He would not create something that represents Him that is less than something else.

That's good. I'll remember that. It fits very well with the whole European Christian socialist liberal idea (which stems back to Hildegard von Bingen, St. Francis, Thomas Aquinas, and others) that Every Person Matters. I've heard it expressed differently and perhaps more poetically: "God made me and God don't make no junk."

But if you take the Bible literally, then you can't accept the existence of aliens or other worlds at all, for it makes no mention of them.

I recall that the previous Bishop of Rome also said something similar about ten or twenty years ago. IIRC, he opined that aliens would probably not be Christian because they probably did not fall from grace the way humans did. I suspect that I won't live to see the day we make First Contact, but I hope that if someone asks them about this, they take it in the kind spirit in which I hope it will be meant.

[biguglygoalie]

[elite]

Whew! It's a good thing the Vatican said it's OK for me to think for myself. I was getting antsy about that whole Hell thing for a second.

NOT.

[Foxton]

But the holy doctrine of vatican law cannot be changed!



Gimme a break, with all the worlds out there, it's harder to believe that the only place with intelligent life is on Earth.

[chakal]

Originally Posted by Aaron

According to God's word

Not true.... You should say: As hand written by a man (Thousands of year before us) following what he have heard from his parents, familly and tribe for another couple of centuries. That would be more accurate. God didn't wrote the bible, Mooses never wrote anything too (except maybe the 10 commandments, that are nothing more than common sense if you want live in a society). Hell, Jesus never wrote a thing and Mohamed neither.

All those stories were written by someone else, years and years after the facts, coming from stories told by someone, to someone else then re-told again to someone else... Have you ever tried the telephone game? It takes 3 persons to have a total different phrase, imagine if the story goes for decades and century.

End of my rant.

Also, here's my little fantastic story about UFOs:

I beleive in lifeforms out there in the universe outside our galaxy, but do they visit us? I don't think so.

My guess on UFOs:

You know how they appear in our atmosphere without any radar seeing them coming from a distance and how they disappear as fast and whe can't see them in space? I mean, NASA satellites outside the orbit of the Earth haven't seen (as we know) a UFO. So why can we see them in our atmosphere and not in space and we can see them come from a far distance?

Because they're humans, coming from the Earth, but not in our time. They come from the future. Future humans may have find a way to come back in time, I don't know how, but they do. That's why they can appear and disappear in a flash without leaving any traces in space. They're already here, but many years ahead of us, many milleniums ahead.

Ok, now, do I believe my own stuff? Not really, but it's the most logical theory so far I came up with. Is it more over-the-top than The whole Exodus story? I don't think so.

[#20]

Originally Posted by biguglygoalie

AMEN TO THAT!
The more and more contradictions I see in religion, the happier I am to be an athiest
and I believe in the little green spacemen