small claims over goalie pads???

[Stryker908]

ib4 da lock

[Stryker908]

IN BEFORE THE LOCK

Seriously, this guys life is not going well, He returned the pads, he doesnt need you piling on....

Just let it go its not worth it ...

Opps sorry for the dbl post

[Matt The Hammer]

Is wearing a leather coat while waterskiing ok?

[Dragon]

Originally Posted by Matt The Hammer

Is wearing a leather coat while waterskiing ok?

It is if you're the Fonz...

Dragon

[TIMMAAYY]

Leather's fine.... seal skin? Not so much.

[feliks]

If someone f*d me around like that I'd surely smash the windows of their car or something..... KARMA is a bitch sometimes.

[killer]

Originally Posted by feliks

If someone f*d me around like that I'd surely smash the windows of their car or something..... KARMA is a bitch sometimes.

Yes, I think you'd find karma is a bitch.

[habs-fan]

Originally Posted by feliks

If someone f*d me around like that I'd surely smash the windows of their car or something..... KARMA is a bitch sometimes.

Karma may not be a bitch, but after you're conviction, you may end up being Karma's bitch.

[feliks]

Originally Posted by habs-fan

Karma may not be a bitch, but after you're conviction, you may end up being Karma's bitch.

Are these the words of an ex-con?

The point is, you shouldn't **** around on people because they might come back and do something worse to you....that's all.... and if the justice system isn't going to solve it...sometimes the only way is to do it yourself.

[wjmurray]

I think that quite a few people are being a bit too hard on this kid. He was trusting, perhaps a bit too trusting, because the dirtbag was a coach. Kids are taught to listen to and respect their coaches and this teaches them to trust and respect them. In this case the trust was misplaced because if the coach intended to pay for the pads, he would have done it on delivery 6 months ago. Instead he procrastinated, made excuses and then finally just said he would give them back. This is an adult who is without personal integrity and after this type of crap has shown that he should not be coaching kids because he is incapable of setting an example for them or keeping his word.

The OP has learned one of those valuable life lessons that you sometimes have to learn on your own even though people will tell you that certain things are a bad idea. Among these are never work with or loan money to friends and family, be sure you get paid before someone walks out the door with your merchandise and quite a few others. The key here is if there is money involved, make sure that you either have it in writing with a payment schedule or you get 100% cash in hand before you turn over your posessions to someone else. The only person you can trust in life is yourself, everyone else needs to sign a contract or pay in advance!

[feliks]

Originally Posted by PSULion22

So let me get this right. . .

You believe it is a good idea to have this guy, his girlfriend, and her 1 year-old child kicked out of their house to live on the streets because he can't afford to pay you $125? Clearly if he has no job, lives in government assisted housing, and can't afford to pay you for the pads, he won't be able to afford rent for a place to live. But, who cares right? I mean after all, he took those pads and didn't pay you for them. Oh wait, he didn't? He couldn't afford the $125 so he did the honorable thing and gave them back to you. You said he was getting a great deal which means you could get more somewhere else. Stop being a pathetic, low-life brat and get the F@%K over it. Sell the pads and make more money, move on with your goddamn, worthless life. It is in no way a matter of principle to even consider these things for being shorted $125 for pads which you were returned. Grow the F@%K up.

And ihaf96's mom - shame on you for suggesting that he report the guy over this. Act like an adult.

Wow am I missing something here? This was this kids COACH.....he wanted to buy the pads.....instead USED the pads for 6 months, and bought a motorcycle during that time...lives in welfare housing...and is using YOUR tax dollars to do so.....and you're DEFENDING him?

What is this world coming to?? This is why there's no justice in the world...people like you..and people that agree with you.... $125 is $125....to a kid that might be a lot of money....why don't you grow up. You sound like you're 15 years old with lines like "Stop being a pathetic, low-life brat and get the F@%K over it."

If anyone is a pathetic low-life it's the coach who used this kid for his goalie pads...he could at LEAST give the kid 20 or 50 bucks or offer SOMETHING for the time used.....instead he just gives them back with no consequences? That's bullcrap.

The girl and her kid have nothing to do with the situation....so messing with them doesnt make sense.....but why doesn't the girl on welfare get a job to support her kid? There are things called DAYCARE and lots of single parents are out there working to support their family.

The bottom line is....you shouldn't be defending this coach...and I still can't believe people agree with you.

[habs-fan]

Originally Posted by feliks

Wow am I missing something here? This was this kids COACH.....he wanted to buy the pads.....instead USED the pads for 6 months, and bought a motorcycle during that time...lives in welfare housing...and is using YOUR tax dollars to do so.....and you're DEFENDING him?

The girl and her kid have nothing to do with the situation....so messing with them doesnt make sense.....but why doesn't the girl on welfare get a job to support her kid? There are things called DAYCARE and lots of single parents are out there working to support their family.

How about you read the posts. He bought a bike BEFORE he lost his job. Should he have paid the kid when he got the pads? hell yeah. But he didn't. lesson learned to the kid. He should just take the pads back and go away.

You have no idea if the girlfriend is physically able to work. You also have no idea what kind of job she could find. Get a fn clue. She finds a job, most of the income will go to daycare and she will likely lose whatever health care benefits she gets by being on welfare. I've known people on welfare who would love to get a job. But unless it pays significantly more than welfare, it makes no sense.

[killer]

Originally Posted by feliks

You sound like you're 15 years old with lines like "Stop being a pathetic, low-life brat and get the F@%K over it."

Originally Posted by feliks

If someone f*d me around like that I'd surely smash the windows of their car or something..... KARMA is a bitch sometimes.

Do you want to take another guess at who sounds like they're 15?

The coach is probably a douche, but the OP isn't without fault either. It's been a while since I was in the market for used pads but if they're $125, they'll hold their value. And if $125 was such a great deal, maybe he can get more now by selling them to someone else. If not, that's the cost of learning not to trust people. It sucks, but that's about all you can do.

[PSULion22]

Originally Posted by PSULion22

You will not get your $125 in small claims court, regardless of a verbal contract. He offered the $125 to buy the pads and you did not take payment. This situation is as much your fault as his. Since the pads are still useable (I assume he didn't tear them up) and he can return them to you, the best you can hope to get is an award to cover the depreciation in value which, let's be honest, isn't much. You already said he got a great deal, which would indicate you could get more by selling them to another person. Your best bet is going to be asking for $25 or so for time he used them and then trying to sell them elsewhere.

Originally Posted by feliks

Wow am I missing something here? This was this kids COACH.....he wanted to buy the pads.....instead USED the pads for 6 months, and bought a motorcycle during that time...lives in welfare housing...and is using YOUR tax dollars to do so.....and you're DEFENDING him?

What is this world coming to?? This is why there's no justice in the world...people like you..and people that agree with you.... $125 is $125....to a kid that might be a lot of money....why don't you grow up. You sound like you're 15 years old with lines like "Stop being a pathetic, low-life brat and get the F@%K over it."

If anyone is a pathetic low-life it's the coach who used this kid for his goalie pads...he could at LEAST give the kid 20 or 50 bucks or offer SOMETHING for the time used.....instead he just gives them back with no consequences? That's bullcrap.

The girl and her kid have nothing to do with the situation....so messing with them doesnt make sense.....but why doesn't the girl on welfare get a job to support her kid? There are things called DAYCARE and lots of single parents are out there working to support their family.

The bottom line is....you shouldn't be defending this coach...and I still can't believe people agree with you.

Who is defending the coach? Didn't I suggest asking for a "rental fee", taking them back, and selling them to someone for more? That's right, I was the first one to do so. If $125 is so important, the rental fee plus whatever more he would get elsewhere would be more important. In fact, if that was the case, he should be jumping for joy that the coach wants to give them back and he has the opportunity to make more money. So, clearly that isn't the case (as has also been stated by the OP).

You are exactly right, the girl and kid have absolutely no bearing on this situation, so going after them is purely vindictive and petty, not to mention somewhat disturbing. Given the fact that the money isn't an issue, it is downright despicable. That is why I called him what I did; not for wanting his money but rather for wanting to have a single mother and her child evicted over it. Furthermore, none of us know their financial situation; not me, not you, no one else on the board, and not even the OP. That is an issue that pertains to them and we simply do not have the information to make any kind of comment on it. If you read and understood all of the posts in this thread, you'd see that bringing the girlfriend and her kid in is where the tone changed. It's pretty funny you can't believe people agree with me, yet you do it two sentences earlier.

This is the bottom line. Regardless of the circumstances around the coach's financial situation, he is now unable to pay the $125 for the pads. Yes, it sucks for the OP, and it does not speak well for the coach. However, if the OP had taken the money immediately upon giving away the pads, there would have been no issues. So you have to look at what the outcome of this is; not should be, not could be, not is right. And that outcome is that regardless of what you threaten him with, he can't afford to pay, so there is no reason to even consider it. The coach is giving back the pads. Those pads are supposedly worth more than the OP sold them for. Take the pads, sell them elsewhere, and ask for something to cover the depreciation.

Originally Posted by feliks

If someone f*d me around like that I'd surely smash the windows of their car or something..... KARMA is a bitch sometimes.

Originally Posted by feliks

Are these the words of an ex-con?

The point is, you shouldn't **** around on people because they might come back and do something worse to you....that's all.... and if the justice system isn't going to solve it...sometimes the only way is to do it yourself.

OK, Batman I don't understand why you and the OP feel that the coach "f'd" the kid in this situation and there is a need for "justice". The kid didn't provide some service for which he never got paid. The coach didn't take the pads and move out of state. The point is, the OP didn't lose anything in this situation, he has his pads and the opportunity to make more. That is what you are missing. No one got "f'ed" and there is no need for "justice", or vigilantism for that matter. The only need here is the OP, and apparently you as well, to grow up.

[feliks]

Well I didn't read through every post here, and missed where you suggested a "rental fee". So I do agree with you there...

I don't understand why you say I need to grow up? Maybe you need to open your eyes up and realize people shouldn't treat other people like that...it's just not nice...and if you do treat people like that, you should expect consequences.

Ok, so say I want to buy your car....and I agree to pay you $1000 for it.... I give you $100 up front and then make excuses for the next few months because I can't pay for it....the car will be given back....but a fee should also be applied because the person used the car for said amount of time.....why would I get off scott free using a car for a few months with no consequences? That's exactly what small claims court is for. This guy CAN afford it..he has a motorcycle...why doesn't he sell that to pay for debts? Why doesnt he get a job?

Just one man's opinion anyway....obviously you don't care for my opinion...so it doesn't really matter if I try to explain myself or my beliefs on the justice of this situation anyway....